RE or ED??? Decisions, Decisions!!!

wow... what an amazing post...

Hey Chris.. you're new to the ED life.. don't think for a second you have a clue..

because myself, Josh, Derek.. all started out way before Elemental even existed.. back in the Delta Soundworks days.. you only know what you're told, and you're lied to...

Where's Ben? exactly... what can you say about the truth?

well.. He can play victim and blame others.. or just plain lie.. what he's done with all of us..

Its not about immaturity.. its about one owner, whose reaping what he sowed..

Loyd L.

 
I have come to the conclusion you actually have learning problems.
Seriously, the facts were given to you, by one of THE most respected men in audio, and that is by anyone's standards. YET you name it false.

Hundreds of people attest to their failure of the subs, yet you name it false.

Pictures were given of defective subs, yet you name it false.

You have all the facts in front of you, yet you disregard them.Why?

I honestly,100% think you are retarded. Your father should have worn a condom.

Ive never said this and meant it, but I honestly think you are incredibly closed minded,and cannot realize the false shade covering your eyes. You live in a false reality, and THAT is the truth.
Ouch that was harsh. But something about the way you said it was funny.

 
why so mad, it makes sense. some people have better things to do with their time.
better things to do? WTF are you smoking?

hmm....lets see, he posted this on icix today, "eh, I'm bored. don't have a ton to do today. " so i guess defending himself and his company is not high on his priority list?

 
I saw in an early post that it was recomended that ed not rate them any higher than 300 watts rms. Maybe this is why I haven't had problems. I've given them each 300 watts rms. Also how many of you had failures in a ported type box? I'm thinking maybe ed should have made the k's strictly for a sealed application. THis would reduce the risk of the sub moving past it's designed limits.

Also do you think ed will have problems with their new speaker design once they finish it?

Also not to bash RE because I may look at getting one of their subs but didn't they have a problem with using (can't remember which company's parts) parts that didn't meet some other companies expectations of quality.

What sub should I look at to have better sq than my 2003 2 10"k's and also plays louder from RE? I'm thinking of going to a single sub setup and either looking at Incriminator or RE.

 
wow... what an amazing post...
Hey Chris.. you're new to the ED life.. don't think for a second you have a clue..

because myself, Josh, Derek.. all started out way before Elemental even existed.. back in the Delta Soundworks days.. you only know what you're told, and you're lied to...

Where's Ben? exactly... what can you say about the truth?

well.. He can play victim and blame others.. or just plain lie.. what he's done with all of us..

Its not about immaturity.. its about one owner, whose reaping what he sowed..

Loyd L.
me know benny for long long time....we had our issues, and we resolved them...for me the "i'm sorry" went a long way....and i'd like to sit here and defend him from the people who he pissed off.....but it's not my job //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

don't lump me into the ED hater group loyd //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif you know that's not me...but i understand fully where you guys are coming from...and i dont' blame you at all for being pissed....

and yes that is really sad for chris to make up another name....sadder than watching a panda bear trying to get an erection and failing.

 
wow... what an amazing post...
Hey Chris.. you're new to the ED life.. don't think for a second you have a clue..

because myself, Josh, Derek.. all started out way before Elemental even existed.. back in the Delta Soundworks days.. you only know what you're told, and you're lied to...

Where's Ben? exactly... what can you say about the truth?

well.. He can play victim and blame others.. or just plain lie.. what he's done with all of us..

Its not about immaturity.. its about one owner, whose reaping what he sowed..

Loyd L.
Loyd, i just go by what i have observed on the forums over the years. ben has told me nothing about the past, nor do i ask. i hardly believe all that i hear. i am not here to question you either, because in all honesty, i hold you in high regards. you do have to understand where i sit, as do many others, any eD business aside. all of the views i made were my own, not any companies. i have never heard any of this untill the SIN incident, thats why i ask for facts. in my eyes, it has nothing to do with any kind of relationship i have with the company. hence the reason for this SN, it's kinda like the president trying to hit the bar. i just want to come in, sit down, grab a cold one, and shoot the shiit like the rest. i did however agree to answer questions about the new eD products, which i will uphold. neither i nor you know what will happen in the furture.
when i was in vegas, someone that i hold up high with the most respect i can possibly give, told me that the return/defect rate on the A series drivers was 100%. we both know thats not true. kinda makes you wonder, especially when i am in the position of consumer, doesn't it?

with all of that said, i am sure that we will cross paths soon, and i am sure that you, me and mark will have much better thing to discuss than this BS.

and on another note, not neccassarly aimed towards you, Chad comes in here trying to do the best that he can. he's a good guy, cut him some slack

 
don't lump me into the ED hater group loyd //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
wasn't my intention.. just showing that we were in the position to know what really went on... I know that you and Ben made peace of sorts.. shame that can't happen here...

Loyd L.

 
Chris... I hold no issue with you, professionally, or personally.. nor do I have any problems with any of the current ED staff.. you all haven't any information about the past..

you guys defend what you feel you need to defend.. thats what a rep does..

thats what I did.. Ben said... "buildhouse's fault, not mine" "subs are coming soon" "I'll get your buddies money back soon" "buildhouse's fault again" ,etc..

I nod, and did the dirty work on the boards.. followed rather blindly.. because it was Ben.. and I thought there was a deep friendship there..

hindsight is always 20/20 isn't it?

Loyd L.

 
Shit happens...I know who i can trust and who i can't now //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif ill just leave it at that

And for the guy who was asking if i work for Incriminator - The answer is no, I'm very good friends with the owners of the company and I support him 100%. I believe you can email them at Sales@incriminatoraudio.com if i recall correctly - if not just check the website out http://www.incriminatoraudio.com

 
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