raised trucks...

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

If going 30 in a 35mph turn is being a dumbass...then YOU sir, are one as well as the rest of America. Hell. It was 2 days after getting the computer calibrated to match the gears and overall tire height as well. So, we know it was closer to accurate than what it was before.
I am not knocking the lifted truck...I am just saying why I wouldnt ever do it, and why I rather slammed trucks.

Fat people dont like to climb, and we dont fly very well. Gravity plays a heavy toll on us.

I'm just curious what the truck looked like and had for suspension/tires to make it go over like that, or how abrupt the corner was. Two rolled lifted vehicles starts to look like a pattern of driving habits //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

Like I said, a lifted vehicle has to driven with an understanding of its capabilities, just seems odd that it'd be that bad.

 

[jdc753 10+ year member]

If going 30 in a 35mph turn is being a dumbass...then YOU sir, are one as well as the rest of America. Hell. It was 2 days after getting the computer calibrated to match the gears and overall tire height as well. So, we know it was closer to accurate than what it was before.
I am not knocking the lifted truck...I am just saying why I wouldnt ever do it, and why I rather slammed trucks.

Fat people dont like to climb, and we dont fly very well. Gravity plays a heavy toll on us.

I totally understand this, as much as I don't like being that low to the ground, I will gladly do it if the vehicle is more apt to take it. Corvette or 2wd truck or something with good performance that can hit turns at high speeds. I just don't like being lowered just for the sake of being lowered, a car that can handle better than it can accelerate or brake isn't my style. I have been shocked by how well my 8,000lb brick handles, scary to pass cars on the outside of a turn without even needing 2hands on the wheel.

I just prefer sitting up high and looking out over the road and not having all the visibility issues of a car, also you can see traffic and danger coming better, this is if your paying attention and being active on the road which to me is first, I just love driving whether it be a simple cruise down a windy road, blasting some corners, technical off road or pulling a trailer, when I get behind the wheel I go //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[Banana Balls 5,000+ posts]

Like I said, a lifted vehicle has to driven with an understanding of its capabilities, just seems odd that it'd be that bad.

Either that or it was an Isuzi Samari (sp?) on 35's. lol

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

Either that or it was an Isuzi Samari (sp?) on 35's. lol

Indeed, a lift can be pretty hairy on a ride with only a 2 foot trackwidth //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[Jmac 10+ year member]

Bumper height can increase danger but so can sheer mass or lack thereof, but back to the bumper thing //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

Can ? Does ...
Pedestrians and passengers in small cars are essentially dead on impact if hit at a decent speed if your bumper is above knee level ...

Not to mention that raising the vehicle also raises the center of gravity, increasing the risk of rollovers and decreasing control over the vehicle in case emergency maneuvers are required.

 

[Jmac 10+ year member]

It's a common misconception that lifted trucks are dangerous. Sure they have a higher center of gravity, and can't handle nearly as well as your lowered trucks, but unless they are taken to the extreme, they will still take a corner at a good speed. I didn't slow down at all with my 1/2 ton on 35's. And my new truck is even better. It's a 1-ton, so the suspension is quite stiff, and handles amazing. Even though it weighs three times as much as your little trucks.
Around here your truck would get attention, but it would be people looking at your dirty cause you ruined a good truck. It's a different scene up here.

But you can't argue with dropping the back end and throwing out the sparks. Add flames out the tail pipe, and you're showing off in a good way.

Tell me how it's not dangerous ...
Have you ever seen an accident involving a lifted truck ? It's not pretty for the other guy, even if they're in a fairly large vehicle like an SUV.

Maybe we should all just drive monster trucks, though //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

Typical selfish American perspectives FTW ...

 

[SilverSquared 10+ year member]

I'm just curious what the truck looked like and had for suspension/tires to make it go over like that, or how abrupt the corner was. Two rolled lifted vehicles starts to look like a pattern of driving habits //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif
Like I said, a lifted vehicle has to driven with an understanding of its capabilities, just seems odd that it'd be that bad.

1 was a '01 Singlecab z71 gmc with full fabtech everything. This one was the one we rolled in. He, after the body work, put some spacers in the front where the axle connects to a 6 bolt thing...he put a 3" spacer there, and widened his front track by 6 inches total. Helped a million. Tires were 35s, but then upgraded to 37s

The other was a dodge 2500 quad cab. Dont remember the brand of suspension, its not in the Truckin, MiniTruckin, Sport, or Street truck mags...but he did pay over 3k for it, and supposedly by the local 4x4 custom shop, its one of the best for off roading. IIRC his tires were 39s or 35s. (kinda rhymes, especially with his dialect)

 

[Banana Balls 5,000+ posts]

1 was a '01 Singlecab z71 gmc with full fabtech everything. This one was the one we rolled in. He, after the body work, put some spacers in the front where the axle connects to a 6 bolt thing...he put a 3" spacer there, and widened his front track by 6 inches total. Helped a million. Tires were 35s, but then upgraded to 37s
The other was a dodge 2500 quad cab. Dont remember the brand of suspension, its not in the Truckin, MiniTruckin, Sport, or Street truck mags...but he did pay over 3k for it, and supposedly by the local 4x4 custom shop, its one of the best for off roading. IIRC his tires were 39s or 35s. (kinda rhymes, especially with his dialect)

Something tells me that he didn't have a sway bar installed with his lift.

 

[speedfreak28 10+ year member]

lets talk about the real atrocity, lifting a 2wd, completely useless, unless itsa prerunner......

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

lets talk about the real atrocity, lifting a 2wd, completely useless, unless itsa prerunner......

you can lift a 2wd only if it's a leveling kit, or a donk with 30's

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

Can ? Does ...
Pedestrians and passengers in small cars are essentially dead on impact if hit at a decent speed if your bumper is above knee level ...

Not to mention that raising the vehicle also raises the center of gravity, increasing the risk of rollovers and decreasing control over the vehicle in case emergency maneuvers are required.

Unfortunately I've had to dodge a propane tanker that pulled directly infront of me in my truck around 60 so I know it doesn't handle like a sports car, but it safely got out of the way even if I did have a load in my shorts. Some vehicles are far overbuilt for evasive manuevers, some are underbuilt, I unfortunately am in the latter.

I can't argue, bumper height has ill affects on collisions, but as I go back to, so does mass, including dump trucks, semis, busses, heavy equipment (which have high bumper height as well). If we are all going to hold hands, sing kumbaya, and save the world we better start knocking those other road hazzard too.

 

[SilverSquared 10+ year member]

Something tells me that he didn't have a sway bar installed with his lift.

The Z did. This I am certain of. I peeled the damn fabtech decal off of it, lmao.

 

[mil81 10+ year member]

I've been in 2 roll overs...and both were on a mild body lift, and mild suspension lift, 1 was 3" body and 6" suspension, the other was 3" body and 8" suspension. Only 1 came completely over on flat road. Trust me, it was scary, and we were going 30 in a 35mph turn. He had the wide wheels and everything to make up for it, but it just didnt cut it. The other...well, lets just say he was in the process of changing lanes around a turn...like on a 4 lane highway...went to the right, and the left side came up and we slid...if we didnt hit the wall on the passenger side, we would have rolled, at 65.
Dont get me wrong, I know there are ways to get it to handle "better" like the spacers to push the wheels and front axles further out to make it have a wider stance. But you know it wont handle like a smacked 3500. lol.

But...it may just be a misconception, as you said. Just from experience, it scares the shit out of me.

As stated above, that is not normal to be able to roll a truck with 9" of lift at 30mph. If you have a vehicle set up for rock crawling where the suspension is very soft to allow for lots of articulation, then maybe, but not a normal purchased lift kit.

I know I have pulled some nascar evasive maneuvers with the new truck and didn't feel at all uncomfortable.

That said, obviously my truck won't handle as good as a slammed 3500, but it is very far from dangerous. And I won't be bottoming out on the speed bump at McDonalds.

 

[T9X 10+ year member]

lets talk about the real atrocity, lifting a 2wd, completely useless, unless itsa prerunner......

I've seen quite a few kids around here with lifted 4 cylinder 2WD and I still don't understand it. What confuses me even more is that they never take their truck offroad. Why lift your truck unless you plan on going through some rough terrain?

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[Banana Balls 5,000+ posts]

The Z did. This I am certain of. I peeled the damn fabtech decal off of it, lmao.

HAHA! Well at least you did one thing right. If I was going to rock a fanboy lift like fabtech I'd be sure to rip the stickers off. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif