Quick question about soldering 0 gauge ring terminals

[plantinseeds]

Just got my Cadence 0 gauge in the mail, still waiting for the copper ring terminals to come tomorrow. Anyways my question is, do I absolutely need a table vice when soldering the connection or is it just to be safe when using a torch?

What would be a good alternative to using a table vice for holding the 0 gauge wire?

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[Falcons 5,000+ posts]

just make sure you have it held in a spot where you KNOW it isnt going to move. i use a small vice myself. or have a friend hold some vice grips or a pair of pliers while you solder.

 

[murph 10+ year member]

Just got my Cadence 0 gauge in the mail, still waiting for the copper ring terminals to come tomorrow. Anyways my question is, do I absolutely need a table vice when soldering the connection or is it just to be safe when using a torch?
What would be a good alternative to using a table vice for holding the 0 gauge wire?

If you have a clamp take two brick and put the wire between them. I would clamp it in someway while doing the soldering. Honestly if you didn't want to solder you should have just gotten crimp terminals.

 

[murph 10+ year member]

Just got my Cadence 0 gauge in the mail, still waiting for the copper ring terminals to come tomorrow. Anyways my question is, do I absolutely need a table vice when soldering the connection or is it just to be safe when using a torch?
What would be a good alternative to using a table vice for holding the 0 gauge wire?

If you have a clamp take two brick and put the wire between them. I would clamp it in someway while doing the soldering. Honestly if you didn't want to solder you should have just gotten crimp terminals.

 

[JoshC 10+ year member]

Why dont you just go to Oreillys auto parts and pick up some crimp terminals? Put wire in, bash with hammer

^^^^I cantever get images to post, anyone know whats wrong with my url?

 

[plantinseeds]

I never said I didn't want to solder, just wondering the best way to do it without a table vice. Also the reason I don't use 0 gauge ring crimps is because I was told that soldering the wire to ring terminals provides better current flow than using ring crimps.

 

[JoshC 10+ year member]

I never said I didn't want to solder, just wondering the best way to do it without a table vice. Also the reason I don't use 0 gauge ring crimps is because I was told that soldering the wire to ring terminals provides better current flow than using ring crimps.

well i dought there any current flow change between soldering it or using the tubular brass ring terminal for auto parts. Bust for solder just hit it with some vice grips

 

[JoshC 10+ year member]

I never said I didn't want to solder, just wondering the best way to do it without a table vice. Also the reason I don't use 0 gauge ring crimps is because I was told that soldering the wire to ring terminals provides better current flow than using ring crimps.

well i dought there any current flow change between soldering it or using the tubular brass ring terminal from auto parts. But for solder just hit it with some vice grips

 

[Flex68 10+ year member]

Hammer mechanics, sheesh! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif

A properly done soldering job is pure peace of mind....no arcing possible, full amps passed with no added resistance, etc, etc.

Leave the crimp-on connectors for speaker wiring, and solder that big mofo

 

[plantinseeds]

Thanks Flex, will do!

 

[Flex68 10+ year member]

Just got my Cadence 0 gauge in the mail, still waiting for the copper ring terminals to come tomorrow. Anyways my question is, do I absolutely need a table vice when soldering the connection or is it just to be safe when using a torch?
What would be a good alternative to using a table vice for holding the 0 gauge wire?

Wanted to revisit this thread, and offer my apologies to the OP and the posters I jokingly called "hammer mechanics" but who are clearly more knowledgeable than I.

Since I have been working with AC for years, I have learned to despise crimp-on terminals. However, in discussing the 'solder vs/ crimp' issue as related to car audio and DC voltage with a very sharp friend, I have been set straight.

According to him, the characteristics of low DC voltage makes it prefer crimping, and the amount of solder required for larger gauge wires actually serves to increase the overall resistance. Granted, I doubt it would be by much, and it does offer additional strength and less opportunity for corrosion over time, but...

Embarrassed.... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/blush.gif.99bc659ee2012b7d826165e26fb5eebe.gif

 

[plantinseeds]

Wanted to revisit this thread, and offer my apologies to the OP and the posters I jokingly called "hammer mechanics" but who are clearly more knowledgeable than I.
Since I have been working with AC for years, I have learned to despise crimp-on terminals. However, in discussing the 'solder vs/ crimp' issue as related to car audio and DC voltage with a very sharp friend, I have been set straight.

According to him, the characteristics of low DC voltage makes it prefer crimping, and the amount of solder required for larger gauge wires actually serves to increase the overall resistance. Granted, I doubt it would be by much, and it does offer additional strength and less opportunity for corrosion over time, but...

Embarrassed.... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/blush.gif.99bc659ee2012b7d826165e26fb5eebe.gif

Haha, we forgive you //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif I just ended up soldering

 

[Flex68 10+ year member]

If it means anything, my stubborn azz will likely be soldering the Big Three connections on my upcoming build.....old habits die hard

 

[plantinseeds]

Can't go wrong with solder! Just feels like a more secure connection + looks cleaner in my opinion. I still have to do alternator to battery positive //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif Will I be fine not using a fuse/fuse block for a while? Also once I do end up buying a fuse, how many amps should I look at for 1/0 gauge Cadence wire?

 

[brynm 10+ year member]

Why dont you just go to Oreillys auto parts and pick up some crimp terminals? Put wire in, bash with hammer

^^^^I cantever get images to post, anyone know whats wrong with my url?

Because you are using the google image search link. Click the Full size image link on the right and the picture will pop up with this http://2.imimg.com/data2/ON/QP/IMFCP-4347271/wp-content-uploads-2011-10-untitled-221-250x250.jpg as an address. Use that in the image tags, and you get...