Question for religious people.......

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I fart in your general direction!

 

[MikeofTulsa Moderator]

I will transfer $100 to your PayPal account if you can tell me the person who wrote the Bible you read. $100! PM me with the answer. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
And $100 more if you can tell me who started the Christian religion. [hint] it was one person, and his name WAS NOT Jesus [hint].

The one thing that can be proven about the Bible is that it's way too **** long. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

to answer your first question. usephious of ceseria (spelling is probably wrong) is the person responsible for compiling the first Christian bible(or cannon as it was called in those days)
the apostles/disciples were the ones to start a "church" they traveled the known world spreading the gospel, and churches sprang up from there. but if you are wanting to know who specifically organized the religion, basically it was the roman emperor Constantine. he started the the "council of Nicaea" which was a meeting of all the bishops of the churches at the time and came up with the Nicaean Creed which spelled out the basics of the Christian beliefs. my pay pal is mikeoftulsa@yahoo.com i will expect my money shortly.

 

[MikeofTulsa Moderator]

double post

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Boy, you know I am going to be bumpin'//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

I guess. From what I read about heaven, it isn't a place I really want to go.

The parameters were defined by God, he decided to send his Son down from heaven to earth to allow us to be forgiven of our sins. There was no way prior to this event for someone to become Jewish. Upon Jesus being born we (all people) could become children of God, not just the Jewish. Jesus was not merely a human, he was and is still the only "Perfect" human, the rest of us pre and post Jesus are born with sin. As for the ability to communication with God, he did and so do we. If you believe the bible, it is fact, if you don't it is hearsay.

That is my big issue with Christianity. The idea of being born into sin. I would think it would be unjust for God to judge someone as a sinner before they sinned. Are infants sinners? I think not. I would think that God would not judge a person incapable of understanding sin (or understanding God) as a sinner and condeming them to hell.

I am in the later category. I don't understand God...so how can I have faith in something I don't understand?

The first and formost thing is that it was a choice, not somthing that was forced on me. Secondly, There is not one thing in the Bible that can be disproved, Thirdly it is one of the only religions that doesn't worship cows ... that is non violent and supports the betterment of all. this is obvioulsy a very breif list, I could go on for a very long time with actual personal experiances that confirm for me I have made the correct decision.
i hope this helps

But what can be proved?

As for the revisions of the Bible, each has it's reason, there is not one perfect shoe that fits all, there are many denominations and versions of the bible and church because there are many different type of people that need many different type of messages

Then certainly one version is correct and the others incorrect? I mean no one has ever revised interpretation of the bible for personal gain, such as trying to justify divorce. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

yep, we thought Pluto was a planet for our entire lives also.

No. Our definition of what is or is not a planet changed. Pluto still revolves around the sun.

double post

I see....nice research. I look forward to his reply.

 

[Eugenics 5,000+ posts]

it kinda does in a rounda bout way. kind subjective though. i think its in the book of daniel if i'm correct. i saw a special on aliens while watching the history channel...... hold onhttp://www.caraudio.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4713725&postcount=157

and you have just fully described the entire book.

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

The first and formost thing is that it was a choice, not somthing that was forced on me. Secondly, There is not one thing in the Bible that can be disproved, Thirdly it is one of the only religions that doesn't worship cows ... that is non violent and supports the betterment of all. this is obvioulsy a very breif list, I could go on for a very long time with actual personal experiances that confirm for me I have made the correct decision.
i hope this helps

what the ****?

 

[MikeofTulsa Moderator]

to answer your first question. usephious of ceseria (spelling is probably wrong) is the person responsible for compiling the first Christian bible(or cannon as it was called in those days)
the apostles/disciples were the ones to start a "church" they traveled the known world spreading the gospel, and churches sprang up from there. but if you are wanting to know who specifically organized the religion, basically it was the roman emperor Constantine. he started the the "council of Nicaea" which was a meeting of all the bishops of the churches at the time and came up with the Nicaean Creed which spelled out the basics of the Christian beliefs. my pay pal is mikeoftulsa@yahoo.com i will expect my money shortly.

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He won't pay up, so I would just ban him for being a scammer.

 

[MikeofTulsa Moderator]

if he doesnt pay i will ban him.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

I'm still wondering why some people believe that Judaeo-Christian religion is a peaceful one, considering the Bible as it's source. Yeah, religion isn't a problem at all...

6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; 7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; 8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: 9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

Another question...

Did Adam and Eve go to heaven or hell? What about all their children (Cain, Abel, Seth, etc.)?

 

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I think they all had an incestuous orgy.

 

[MikeofTulsa Moderator]

I'm still wondering why some people believe that Judaeo-Christian religion is a peaceful one, considering the Bible as it's source. Yeah, religion isn't a problem at all...

i fail to see how the old testiment law has anything to do with the new testiment covenant.

Another question...
Did Adam and Eve go to heaven or hell? What about all their children (Cain, Abel, Seth, etc.)?

i'd imagine they went to heaven. it really depends on what doctorine (spelling?)you believe

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

Another question...
Did Adam and Eve go to heaven or hell? What about all their children (Cain, Abel, Seth, etc.)?

i think even if u had all the answers to every question you could ever think of about every religion or spiritual system from now until 20 secs before, u would still choose atheism on your deathbed.

i may be wrong though

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

Another question...
Did Adam and Eve go to heaven or hell? What about all their children (Cain, Abel, Seth, etc.)?

what does it matter? the answer wouldn't help anybody, theist or atheist