Plane on a Conveyer Belt

[qtipextra 5,000+ posts]

What your saying is like saying if a plan flew over a conveyor belt going say 300mph the plan would just stop.
Remember key thing here is the wheels do not matter. if the plane is moving say 50 mph forward and the the treadmill moves 50mph backward it will no affect the plane. The wheels are in neautral. They have no say whatsoever on the speed of the plane.

Plane= 50mph forward

threadmill= 50mph backward

wheels(which dont matter because they are just there in neutral to reduce friction)100mph

If you would have read my post, you would see thats NOT what i was saying. I also say that the wheels don't matter. (What I say specifically is "regardless of the wheels") I specifically said that if a plane was FLYING over a belt it would have NO effect. Re-read my post to get the jist of what I was saying

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

LOL @ you.

 

[Fast1one 10+ year member]

LOL @ you.

SRSLY...
The plane WILL take off, there will be a slight loss due to the added friction since the wheels are not perfect bearings with no friction, so the plane will have to work a LITTLE harder...

Goodness...

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

This makes me giggle b/c you can point out complete tards so easily...

nG

 

[Fast1one 10+ year member]

This makes me giggle b/c you can point out complete tards so easily...
nG

Meh i was a tard at first too, but I realized it like a couple seconds later, some of these ****ers are persistent though //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

Meh i was a tard at first too, but I realized it like a couple seconds later, some of these ****ers are persistent though //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

It takes true talent to keep flying in the face of common sense.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

It takes true talent to keep flying in the face of common sense.

Put a conveyor belt beneath them and they won't be flying anymore. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

Put a conveyor belt beneath them and they won't be flying anymore. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

LMAO:laugh:

 

[jluv 10+ year member]

I'm glad it will finally air. They announced that it was going to air a while back and then when showtime came it was the wrong episode. What's funny is that even after the show, you will still have dolts insisiting that it won't fly.

It will, of course.

 

[97gp 5,000+ posts]

Jan 30, 9:00 pm

(60 minutes)

Remind Me MythBusters

Airplane on a Conveyor Belt

TV-PG

In this three-myth blockbuster the team takes a crash-course in remote controlled airplane flying, bug-out by testing the "cockroach survival" theory, then return to fraternity pranks with exploding cans of shaving cream.

To bad we have to wait another week but what if they put a different episode on again.

 

[qtipextra 5,000+ posts]

I see the point being made. The plane and thrust is no reliant on the belt. PERIOD. If it was flying. But I think it add more to it when you make a connection between the plane and the belt.

PLANE

_____

obviously if the plane is flying over the belt, it will have no effect on the plane at all.

--

And I think that with the wheels actually sitting on the belt (regardless of wheel speed), that the plane will not be able to take off.

HOWEVER

I do see what you guys are implying, but I think that you do not understand what difference the connection between the plane and belt are making. The wheel structure acts as bridge between them, with the wheels there to allow movement and reduce friction. That bridge provides a connection between ground and air speed, and because it has that connection, it has to apply to ground speed until it has enough speed to overcome the ground, and become an object relative to air speed.

 

[Safe-N-Sound215 10+ year member]

I love everybody's comparisons to try to justify their position, and explain it to others that aren't seeing it their way... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif "For Example, if you take a car with 2 bars... "For example, if you put a Hot Wheels car in a bathtub full of Pistachio pudding... "For example, let's say you take a room full of nuns having an orgy, but said room is on wheels..."
Jebus you guys. The plane will fly. Remember Top Gun? When they take off (in the opposite direction the ship is heading, I might add... SORT OF LIKE A ****ING TREADMILL), what do they do to propel the plane? Stop the ship??? Course not. They raise that thing behind the engines, so that thrust is enhanced and it moves the planes forward at a rapid rate. Why is this, you might wonder? Because planes operate off of THRUST. Thrust is generated by their engines and pushes against the wind, or air, or some object placed behind the engines, or what have you. So just because the plane is on the treadmill, doesn't mean that when the engines kick on, that all of the sudden the concept of thrust is out the window and it has to overcome the speed of the treadmill. Because it uses AIR. Not the friction between the tires and the treadmill. Picture the plane not moving at all, engines off, rolling backwards on the treadmill as it sits, stationary in relation to the treadmill, and moving backwards in relation to the ground. As soon as the engines turn on, the plane will propel forward, because of THRUST. It doesn't have to get its wheels up to speed to overcome the backward motion of the treadmill first.

Jets are propelled off of carriers by catapults. Thrust alone wouldn't get them enough lift to get in the air in time.

Edit:

http://science.howstuffworks.com/aircraft-carrier3.htm

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

I see the point being made. The plane and thrust is no reliant on the belt. PERIOD. If it was flying. But I think it add more to it when you make a connection between the plane and the belt.
PLANE

_____

obviously if the plane is flying over the belt, it will have no effect on the plane at all.

--

And I think that with the wheels actually sitting on the belt (regardless of wheel speed), that the plane will not be able to take off.

HOWEVER

I do see what you guys are implying, but I think that you do not understand what difference the connection between the plane and belt are making. The wheel structure acts as bridge between them, with the wheels there to allow movement and reduce friction. That bridge provides a connection between ground and air speed, and because it has that connection, it has to apply to ground speed until it has enough speed to overcome the ground, and become an object relative to air speed.

We're not IMPLYING anything tard... we are using common sense, physics, and mathematics...

Apparently your sheer inability to process the simple facts we've stated... makes you quite the dense individual...

You need to go back to writing raps... or something else you **** at. You might just **** less at that...

nG

 

[jluv 10+ year member]

I see the point being made. The plane and thrust is no reliant on the belt. PERIOD. If it was flying. But I think it add more to it when you make a connection between the plane and the belt.
PLANE

_____

obviously if the plane is flying over the belt, it will have no effect on the plane at all.

--

And I think that with the wheels actually sitting on the belt (regardless of wheel speed), that the plane will not be able to take off.

HOWEVER

I do see what you guys are implying, but I think that you do not understand what difference the connection between the plane and belt are making. The wheel structure acts as bridge between them, with the wheels there to allow movement and reduce friction. That bridge provides a connection between ground and air speed, and because it has that connection, it has to apply to ground speed until it has enough speed to overcome the ground, and become an object relative to air speed.

I'm not sure that you do understand. The belt will only cause the wheels to spin. It does nothing to impede the forward progress of the airplane. With a very tiny amount of thrust, the plane would be able to remain stationary, even if the conveyor spun at 100 mph. If you increase the thrust, then the plane will move forward. The wheels will spin at the combined speed of the plane and the belt.

Put a skateboard on the back of a treadmill and crank the treadmill to 5 mph. Use your hand to hold the board in place. Doesn't take much effort, does it? Now, gently push the board forward towards the front of the treadmill with your hand. It moves forward, right? How fast, maybe 1 mph? The treadmill, even though it's moving 5 times faster, could not stop you from easily moving the board forward. You pushing the board forward with your hand represents thrust. The plane would move forward just the same, and if the conveyor is long enough, you will have a flying airplane.

 

[konechiwa 10+ year member]

I can't believe they don't see it. I mean, It took me awhile, but at least a figured it out!