Some mean beginner subs here, if I had the money for them I'd buy 'em right now! In fact, if I can get some money, and if you still have them I'll take them off of your hands, are they the HF12D4's or HF12S4's? Just to help show how mean these subs are off of 500Watts, and not the full 700 they're rated for, and these are sealed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oftbCcmEOjQ BUMP FOR GREAT SUBS! I'll keep you posted to see if I can buy them or not.