piecing your box togther...

[Mr Cabinetry 10+ year member]

Been building enclosure's now for 11yr and all I use is a 18 Gauge Brad Air Nailer and Elmer's Professional Woodworker Glue.

Only time I use screws for fabrication is for slot port walls, bracing and mitered corner parts.

 

[bjfish11 5,000+ posts]

How do you NOT need clamps when making a wood glue bond? Yes, if you can stabilize and line up your board properly and screw it down without it moving, then yes, I can see that. However, I can never do that and keep the same bond tightness. I even got flamed over at diyaudio for asking that //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

There are some people out there that can line everything up without clamps. Thats how you dont NEED clamps. Do they help, absolutely, but you dont NEED clamps.

 

[bjfish11 5,000+ posts]

Been building enclosure's now for 11yr and all I use is a 18 Gauge Brad Air Nailer and Elmer's Professional Woodworker Glue.
Only time I use screws for fabrication is for slot port walls, bracing and mitered corner parts.

Personally, I hate the way brads hold things together. Everything just wobbles our of square. Its just bothers me. When I put a screw in nice a tight, that panel wont budge, unless im prying on it.

 

[bryce-man 10+ year member]

i didnt have any clamps... so i predrilled the holes and glued and then put the screws in half way then put a tie down across the two pieces and tightened the screws and the tie down almost at the same time... worked great

you just have to think..

 

[Mr Cabinetry 10+ year member]

Personally, I hate the way brads hold things together. Everything just wobbles our of square. Its just bothers me. When I put a screw in nice a tight, that panel wont budge, unless im prying on it.

Hmmm, I've never had that problem only because in the method use the brad nailer to attach the panels together since I use a stagger pattern rather than just shooting in a straight line.

And, why would anyone be prying on any of the panels to assemble an enclosure???

That just puts stress on the joints. If the parts are cut clean, true and square, you shouldn't have to be prying anything.

 

[bjfish11 5,000+ posts]

Hmmm, I've never had that problem only because in the method use the brad nailer to attach the panels together since I use a stagger pattern rather than just shooting in a straight line.
And, why would anyone be prying on any of the panels to assemble an enclosure???

That just puts stress on the joints. If the parts are cut clean, true and square, you shouldn't have to be prying anything.

The point I was trying to make, is that the only way to pull the box out of square with screws in it, is to pull/pry on the panels.

with brad nails, for example, when I would go to turn the box, to work on a different side, it just pulls the panels out of square.

I was doing some testing with it on a box I build for myself, and I just hated how it held everything together. Didnt hold the joints tight like screws do.

Just my .02

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

Wood, screws, glue, clamps and "beverage" of choice. All one needs to build a proper enclosure. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[Mr Cabinetry 10+ year member]

The point I was trying to make, is that the only way to pull the box out of square with screws in it, is to pull/pry on the panels.with brad nails, for example, when I would go to turn the box, to work on a different side, it just pulls the panels out of square.

I was doing some testing with it on a box I build for myself, and I just hated how it held everything together. Didnt hold the joints tight like screws do.

Just my .02

Oh, I got what your saying.

I'm just saying that screws don't necessarily make a box square, it's the panels that make the box square.

If the panels/parts are not cut square, then all the screws in the world are not going to make it square.

 

[bjfish11 5,000+ posts]

Oh, I got what your saying.
I'm just saying that screws don't necessarily make a box square, it's the panels that make the box square.

If the panels/parts are not cut square, then all the screws in the world are not going to make it square.

Gotcha man.

I was assuming good cuts.

Your right, if your cuts arent square, no fastener or clamp in the world will make a difference.