Oh shit, the RIAA is at it again.

thats pitiful, i mean really where does it end. Why dont they do like the movie business is doing and stay ahead of the technological curve, you dont see major problems with people stealing movies now. Sure its an issue but its much smaller than music downloading, by using blu ray, hd dvd and developing better things it keeps us from finding ways to steal it.

 
eventually they will do away with cds and make us go back to vinyal
They do say everything goes back to the beginning, so this does seem like the only logical path, if thats what it all comes down to. THt still will only prevent a small number of people breaking the law right now, and then force more people to become "pirates". Its a never ending cycle.

so what about tivo and movies...is the movie industry gonna get in on this horse shit?
THey might as well. MPAA doesnt seem that dam serious though, they still make a shit load because people still go to movies, constantly, they make a shit kad

then why the hell did they make cd burners and sh!t like that. they must want us to get in trouble
RIAA didnt make them. But it seems as though they are using present day technology made by other people, to make money for themselves, covering for the money they lose by the companies making these devices, by suing whoever they want at will. I hope that made sense. Its a broken as sentence, read it two or 3 times.

The RIAA would lose if they went after all those....they just ain't that big.
I'd like to see the RIAA go after a hedge fund...and then the hedge fund proceed to bankrupt them using derivatives.
I still think they would try, at least one, if they lose they would stop. If they win, get ready for RIAA vs America.

thats pitiful, i mean really where does it end. Why dont they do like the movie business is doing and stay ahead of the technological curve, you dont see major problems with people stealing movies now. Sure its an issue but its much smaller than music downloading, by using blu ray, hd dvd and developing better things it keeps us from finding ways to steal it.
You are right, they limit some people. I know I would never download a bluray or HD movie. Not for a long while at least. But you will never be able to do away with the common item for the most limited income. Think about it, why havent we got ri of the penny, the pencil, VHS yet.

pathetic
they sue and try and destroy people who actually legally buy music.

are they retarded?
yes, they are trying to target who they can to make up for th millions of other people they cant get. Thats why they fine the pepl that do get caught, so much.

give me some of that shit the RIAA is smoking
theyd proby smoke it with you, then call the police and tell on you.

 
They do say everything goes back to the beginning, so this does seem like the only logical path, if thats what it all comes down to. THt still will only prevent a small number of people breaking the law right now, and then force more people to become "pirates". Its a never ending cycle.
THey might as well. MPAA doesnt seem that dam serious though, they still make a shit load because people still go to movies, constantly, they make a shit kad

RIAA didnt make them. But it seems as though they are using present day technology made by other people, to make money for themselves, covering for the money they lose by the companies making these devices, by suing whoever they want at will. I hope that made sense. Its a broken as sentence, read it two or 3 times.

I still think they would try, at least one, if they lose they would stop. If they win, get ready for RIAA vs America.

You are right, they limit some people. I know I would never download a bluray or HD movie. Not for a long while at least. But you will never be able to do away with the common item for the most limited income. Think about it, why havent we got ri of the penny, the pencil, VHS yet.

yes, they are trying to target who they can to make up for th millions of other people they cant get. Thats why they fine the pepl that do get caught, so much.

theyd proby smoke it with you, then call the police and tell on you.
haha no doubt.

 
How'd they find he had those copies?
RIAA goes after fair USE

RIAA Goes After Fair Use

RIAABy Michael Santo

Executive Editor, RealTechNews

In the case Atlantic vs. Howell, husband and wife Jeffrey and Pamela Howell have been accused of file-sharing over the KaZaA network. Their defense has been that although there are plenty of MP3 files on their computer, the files were not shared but were ripped from purchased CDs for personal use only.

Possibly to increase their chances of a win, a supplemental brief filed by the RIAA contends that ripping music from legally purchased CD’s is illegal. This would eliminate any escape the Howells have. If successful, it would also mean that anyone who ever ripped a CD for their iPod or other MP3 player — would now be a criminal.

Right on page 15 of the brief linked above it says:

It is undisputed that Defendant possessed unauthorized copies of Plaintiffs’ copyrighted sound recordings on his computer. Virtually all of the sound recordings on Exhibit B are in the “.mp3” format. Defendant admitted that he converted these sound recordings from their original format to the .mp3 format for his and his wife’s use.

So, according to the brief, ripped CDs = unauthorized copies.

Of course, the Howells could lose their case while the argument about CD ripping is dismissed, but time will tell. The defendants have until January 11th to respond.

Notably, this goes against statements made by the RIAA’s lawyers in the case of MGM vs. Grokster. It also contradicts the RIAA’s own website, which says:

… burning a copy of CD onto a CD-R, or transferring a copy onto your computer hard drive or your portable music player, won’t usually raise concerns so long as:

* The copy is made from an authorized original CD that you legitimately own

* The copy is just for your personal use. It’s not a personal use – in fact, it’s illegal – to give away the copy or lend it to others for copying.

However, it also follows closely the comments made by Jennifer Pariser, head of litigation at Sony BMG, who said during testimony in the Jammie Thomas case that:

“When an individual makes a copy of a song for himself, I suppose we can say he stole a song.” Making “a copy” of a purchased song is just “a nice way of saying ’steals just one copy’.”

It could be said this “test” of Fair Use has been a long time coming. Obviously more to come.

 
Basically in order to win this case, they have to try to change the rules in their favor. So yes, no more ripping to your computer if they win. They are making an example out of him and in the proess changing the rules......if they win. Thats just my ndersanding of what they are trying to do. Which would also make mp3s players useless, and then, RIAA ould go after DEll (jukebox), creativ (zens and all that), Microsoft zune), apple (ipod and itunes) and any other mp3 maker, like i mentioned before. This shit couldget really crazy. I just wonder who in RIAA is thinking this is a good idea. Like, what the **** is wrong with these guys that work there.

 
Notably, this goes against statements made by the RIAA’s lawyers in the case of MGM vs. Grokster. It also contradicts the RIAA’s own website, which says:

… burning a copy of CD onto a CD-R, or transferring a copy onto your computer hard drive or your portable music player, won’t usually raise concerns so long as:

* The copy is made from an authorized original CD that you legitimately own

* The copy is just for your personal use. It’s not a personal use – in fact, it’s illegal – to give away the copy or lend it to others for copying.
Love how they go against what's on their own site.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif Someone needs to stop these people.

 
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