**Official NBA thread**

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

Less help than Bron? That needs sig'd, lol!
Yes, Terry, Howard and Kidd all ****!

I would take any of those players over Wallace, Wally world, Smith or West.

Dallas has less help, lol!

Than you must have not watched the Mavs at all this season or the playoffs.

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

At least the Red Wings open up the WCF tomorrow //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

Go Stars.

J/k I really could care less about hockey.

 

[rtillaree 10+ year member]

Dwight Howard 20/12 with 6 blocks...not bad considering he's not supposed to do that against the Pistons...

Rashard Lewis with 33, gotta love that kind of production...

Stuckey had a nice night, 19 points in place for Billups...he has a lot of potential...

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Lol first you say they didn't have a good record UNTIL they picked up Gasol, and now you are saying "Yeah they were 1st.' Just admit you were wrong, Jesus. Obviously Gasol made them better, nobody here is questioning that. When Bynum went out they went 4-6, not that terrible. Kobe's defense is far better than LeBron's by the way. Kobe makes 1st team defense every single year. Does LeBron? Nope. Your dumbass needs to stop looking at numbers. Stats does not determine MVP. Defense doesn't even come up in stats other than blocks and steals. Sure Kobe had his offseason issues, but if you didn't watch the 1st game of the regular season, Kobe was PUMPED UP about the game. He is a great team leader now and if you don't realize that then you are a moron (even though we've already established that.) Kobe deserved it, and Chris Paul will be the first one to admit it, so shutup already.

Dude, are you facking retarded or something? Please point out where I said they didn't have a good record numbnutz! Are you snorting Tacosauce to be as dumb as you are? All I mentioned was about their record after the trade. Go back and reread my first comment to you idiot!

I already agree with Kobe being better than him defensivley. Hell many players are dummy. That is evident. Also I didn't know that a MVP was just based on defense, granted his offensive numbers were good, but many others were better. So its a teeter-tooter effect. Bron had better offensive numbers, but wasn't better defensivley. Bryant was better on defense, but didn't put up the Offensive numbers Bron did.

I didn't watch the first game because honestly I am not a nut rider Bryant fan. Even you said it yourself, he had his off season problems.............with his team! Hell his own team wasn't happy with him. Of course he is going to put on his game face come game time. Duh! What did you think he was going to go out there and **** on purpose, or slouch his shoulders and act like a baby? Jesus Christ you are retarded!

Can't wait till your next post to me. I am sure it will be about **** I didn't even say again. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

Your a trip!

 

[rtillaree 10+ year member]

Howard has yet to dominate Detroit. You don't see him putting up 20/20 on Detroit, and he has to work for his offense and isn't dunking very often on the Pistons. The problem is, Rasheed keeps picking up dumb fouls. He needs to save his fouls for Howard. Stuckey can score, but he can't run the offense like Billups.

blah blah...

Dwight owned tonight even outside of the stats...

2-1 feels much better than 3-0...would be nice for Orlando to grab game 4...it will be much more interesting 2-2...Detroit will probably still take the series...but 6-7 games would be lovely...

 

[btdickey99 5,000+ posts]

didnt get to watch the 2nd half, what were Howards stats?

 

[rtillaree 10+ year member]

he only finished with 20/12 and 6 blocks...but his presence was major out there tonight...

 

[TacoSauce 10+ year member]

"They had one of the better records after they picked Gasol up."

You sir are the retarded one. They were first place before they picked Gasol up, I already owned you on that one so just give it up.

When did I ever say MVP is only about defense? Kobe's offensive numbers aren't really that far from LeBron's, but his defense sure is. Making him better, yes? Maybe not in your stupid ass mind, but any person with any type of logic could figure that out. I am simply stating that Kobe's defense is what put him over the top in the MVP race, what is so hard to comprehend?

You were also the one who said you don't understand the experts logic on choosing Kobe as MVP, making you trying to seem smarter than the experts, smart guy.

Not to mention, you just said "you are probably right" when talking about Kobe making the "big shot" at the end of the game. Just another reason why dude wins MVP. Like I said, there is really no need to debate this because Chris Paul will be the first to admit Kobe deserved it, and Chris Paul will win one or more MVP's in his career, so nothing to worry about there.

Anyways... anybody else not liking Orlando's style? They depend on the 3 ball far too much, IMO. I'm not too sure if they would've won that game if Billups had stayed in. Pistons looked discombobulated when he went out. I'm sure they will fix that next game.

 

[rtillaree 10+ year member]

Orlando's game is that of a classic style of a team with a dominate big man and shooters on the outside, that just happen to be great 3 point shooters...whats not to like there...the saying is, live by the 3 (jumper) die by the 3...they have accepted that...

might have lost if Billups was in? well they might have won had his 3 pointer at the end of the third quarter not have counted in game 2...just the way things work out...considering Orlando's energy in the game, I'd be willing to be that they would still have done well...

 

[TacoSauce 10+ year member]

I don't really like the whole live by the 3 die by the 3 strategy. We all know those shots aren't going to go in every night. I think it's sad Rashard Lewis can't really take anybody off the dribble. He will have some no-name on him and he will settle for the jumper. Dude is highly overpaid.

They possibly could've won game 2 if your boy Turkoglu didn't take that terrrribleeee 3 point shot with like 26 seconds left. That was such a terrible decision. Charles Barkley said it how it really is, Detroit is gonna win this series no matter how long it goes.

 

[rtillaree 10+ year member]

Rashard cant take anyone off the dribble? WTF? there goes your credibility...Rashard Lewis is extremely versatile, should have watched him last night, he took the Pistons to the hole over and over...

 

[TacoSauce 10+ year member]

Man i've been watching him all season long, and also when he was with the Sonics. He is a jump-shooter, there is absolutely no denying that. I remember the first series, he would have JASON KAPONO on him, and he would settle for the jump shot. He rarely drives to the hoop, he needs to do it a lot more often. Also, any person with any type of NBA knowledge would know Lewis is highly overpaid. He settles for the long jumpers and the 3's far too much. The only thing he has impressed me with lately is his hard work under the hoop getting those tough offensive rebounds.

 

[MTXman 10+ year member]

LOL they are down 2-0 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

So did we win by 25 or no?

 

[rtillaree 10+ year member]

Man i've been watching him all season long, and also when he was with the Sonics. He is a jump-shooter, there is absolutely no denying that. I remember the first series, he would have JASON KAPONO on him, and he would settle for the jump shot. He rarely drives to the hoop, he needs to do it a lot more often. Also, any person with any type of NBA knowledge would know Lewis is highly overpaid. He settles for the long jumpers and the 3's far too much. The only thing he has impressed me with lately is his hard work under the hoop getting those tough offensive rebounds.

i highly doubt you have been watching him all season long outside of games versus your team or ESPN...but anyway, yes he takes a lot of jumpers, because he is a shooter...however, he drives the lane A LOT, and you watching him all season long should know that...he posts up a lot and he puts up a lot of floaters withing the block...take a look at his hotzone #'s obviously Dwight commands the paint, so unless he's being fronted it's flat out hard for anyone else to be in the same space as him...Rashard doesn't drive as much as Hedo, but he doesn't have to, he's perfectly able to do his work outside when needed...but you said he cant take anyone off the dribble, which is 10000000% false...

why does it matter that he's overpaid? why should you care? you aren't an Orlando fan so there is no need to be worried about their cap situation...you dont make the payments, you aren't the leagues CPA...big deal...the entire league is overpaid...whats done is done..but to say that Rashard is one-dimnesional is egregious and completely absurd...the overpaid stuff is soo played out. he's not a global icon but he's still an extremely talented player...and putting up 33 vs the best defense in the league in a playoff game, pretty impressive or pretty lucky //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

He fits Orlando's system very well...

So did we win by 25 or no?

it's only one game homie...it was nice to get a win...at least there will be no sweeping now...lets just hope we can force it to game 6 or 7...

 

[TacoSauce 10+ year member]

Lol what makes you think i'm not an Orlando fan, do you not see where I am from? I like the Magic, don't really have a problem with them. I just think Rashard Lewis does not have the skill to take over a game, and that's really what Orlando needs. Turkoglu is their closer? That's embarrassing, especially after what we saw him do in game 2 with that terrible decision. Lewis needs to step up, start driving to the hoop a lot more, and stop settling for the jumpshots. And yes I did watch him all season, along with following his stats (was on my fantasy team) and I can say that Turkoglu outplayed him nearly all season.

If Turkoglu didn't step his game up this season, the Magic would be nowhere near where they are now, because Lewis and Howard just wouldn't get it done.

 

[rtillaree 10+ year member]

woulda coulda shoulda's...

Hedo did step it up, so we are where we are...thankfully...Hedo has been less than Hedo in the playoffs, that is very true...but he is the Magic's main closer and rightfully so, he was in the top 5 in 4th quarter points which put him in some pretty good company...so yes, Hedo is a closer...keep in mind this guy has Tayshaun Prince on him, one of the leagues top defenders...you have to give Prince a lot of credit in this series...last series, Hedo contributed when needed (game 2, game 4 and 5) but he was just missing a lot of easy stuff...I think the pressure is on for him and he's just struggling...dude still has game and is still a 4th quarter baller (reference last night)...

Rashard has been Mr. Consistent all season long, so I cant knock the guy, without him the Magic wouldn't be where they are right now, it's a collective effort...

If Dwight had not of stepped his game up, the Magic would not be where they are, don't forget this season he put up those #'s that all of his doubters said he never would, 20/14 when he was said to never be able to average 20+ points a game for a season...

without Stan Van Gundy the team would probably not be where they are...

like I said, all collective...

it doesnt matter where you are from, you arent a die hard Magic fan like myself, someone knocking aspects of the club and not having the down to the bone facts, makes me think you arent a fan...or just a here and there fan...

it doesnt matter, they have done well this year, they accomplished several goals this season, they eclipsed last seasons win record, they got out of the first round of the playoffs and they are not getting swept by the Pistons...one piece at a time...

 

[rtillaree 10+ year member]

So are the Pistons still up 2-1 or no?
Too bad you don't have Tracy "boy it feels good to be in the second round" McGrady.

fact check...

Tracy never said "boy it feels good to be in the second round"

ESPN Article

That made it easy for pundits to joke that Tracy McGrady apparently forgot about that little rule change after leading the eighth-seeded Magic to a 3-1 series lead over No. 1 Detroit, because T-Mac dared at this point to describe how it might feel to finally advance.
"For me, a guy who hasn't experienced the second round, that would be great," T-Mac said.

way different, huh?

pretty amazing how butchered that statement got...

 

[TacoSauce 10+ year member]

woulda coulda shoulda's...
Hedo did step it up, so we are where we are...thankfully...Hedo has been less than Hedo in the playoffs, that is very true...but he is the Magic's main closer and rightfully so, he was in the top 5 in 4th quarter points which put him in some pretty good company...so yes, Hedo is a closer...keep in mind this guy has Tayshaun Prince on him, one of the leagues top defenders...you have to give Prince a lot of credit in this series...last series, Hedo contributed when needed (game 2, game 4 and 5) but he was just missing a lot of easy stuff...I think the pressure is on for him and he's just struggling...dude still has game and is still a 4th quarter baller (reference last night)...

Rashard has been Mr. Consistent all season long, so I cant knock the guy, without him the Magic wouldn't be where they are right now, it's a collective effort...

If Dwight had not of stepped his game up, the Magic would not be where they are, don't forget this season he put up those #'s that all of his doubters said he never would, 20/14 when he was said to never be able to average 20+ points a game for a season...

without Stan Van Gundy the team would probably not be where they are...

like I said, all collective...

it doesnt matter where you are from, you arent a die hard Magic fan like myself, someone knocking aspects of the club and not having the down to the bone facts, makes me think you arent a fan...or just a here and there fan...

it doesnt matter, they have done well this year, they accomplished several goals this season, they eclipsed last seasons win record, they got out of the first round of the playoffs and they are not getting swept by the Pistons...one piece at a time...

Man i'm not trying to take anything away from the Magic, i'm happy they have got this far. I just think their style as of right now isn't going to make it in the playoffs. And yeah I agree with you on the Prince thing, he's a wonderful defender. You say Hedo is struggling because the pressure is on him? That's exactly my point with Rashard Lewis needing to step it up, to take the pressure off of just Hedo in the last minutes of a game.

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

"They had one of the better records after they picked Gasol up."
You sir are the retarded one. They were first place before they picked Gasol up, I already owned you on that one so just give it up.

When did I ever say MVP is only about defense? Kobe's offensive numbers aren't really that far from LeBron's, but his defense sure is. Making him better, yes? Maybe not in your stupid ass mind, but any person with any type of logic could figure that out. I am simply stating that Kobe's defense is what put him over the top in the MVP race, what is so hard to comprehend?

You were also the one who said you don't understand the experts logic on choosing Kobe as MVP, making you trying to seem smarter than the experts, smart guy.

Not to mention, you just said "you are probably right" when talking about Kobe making the "big shot" at the end of the game. Just another reason why dude wins MVP. Like I said, there is really no need to debate this because Chris Paul will be the first to admit Kobe deserved it, and Chris Paul will win one or more MVP's in his career, so nothing to worry about there.

Anyways... anybody else not liking Orlando's style? They depend on the 3 ball far too much, IMO. I'm not too sure if they would've won that game if Billups had stayed in. Pistons looked discombobulated when he went out. I'm sure they will fix that next game.

Yeah, I am done with your retarded ass. Can't even get your **** straight.

You must be another one of those keyboard commando's slapping at the keyboard and **** just spews out.

Also learn to use the facking multi-quote button. Don't worry about me pwning you when the forum does it for you. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

anyone else notice that hedo turkoglo looks like a 7 foot bud bundy from married with children?