obsidian audio 12s?

Indeed, the enclosure, design, and application will alter performance and sound.

Also, my "loud" and your "loud" are more then likely not the same. Thus there is no way to judge that. However, it would perform very well though.

 
They are beast. And you won't find anything else new, that's better for the money. I wish I could run them actually, but they don't make 10" subs. They have decent SQ, with the ability to take plenty of abuse as well. IF you wanted, you could easily run 2kW to the pair.

 
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