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Grimass

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Guys, good to be here. I know absolutely nothing about car audio. I have some questions for you guys.

I recently bought a '99 4Runner Limited. The factory stereo sucks. I believe it has a 6 speaker sound system.

I want to put in a new stereo with iPod connectivity. I'd rather not put a subwoofer in the back as I use the thing to go camping and such. If necessary, I'll replace the factory speakers.

Anyway, I guess my general question is: what do I need to do to get a nice sounding stereo in this thing without paying more than $500 - $600? Can I get something better / louder than the factory stereo for this? Do I really need to replace the speakers or is the head unit the main problem? Any suggestions? I know NOTHING about car audio and will listen with open ears. If you guys tell me to do something, I'll do it.

Thanks,

Dave

 
Yes, you can do alot with $600. Also, all subwoofers don't require huge *** boxes. You could get 1 8inch or 1 10 and it will take up minimal space. Under a cubic foot actually. Plus when you go camping, you could just take it out.

Yes to get the best sound you should replace the head unit and the speakers. And to get the BEST sound you need to amp your speakers.

Some other guys will come in and offer their advice for the actual equipment. I suggest going to http://www.bcae1.com and reading up a little bit.

 
I would definitely need some advice on EXACTLY what to do. I probably won't be installing the stuff myself, so any advice on that would be helpful as well. I am at your mercy.

 
^^^I agree^^^

With $600, you could replace yourr headunit and speakers, and also amplify your speakers. Get some components and some 6x9's for the front and rear, respectively. And a 4 channel amplifier to power em. As for the headunit, you can choose just about any one that pertains to your tastes and needs.

 
also look up what size speakers you have in your vehicle..

with that information. search the classifieds, there are many posts there to help you find what you need for reasonable prices... i have most if not all of what you would look for for WELL UNDER your budget in my own post, including h/u, front stage, i can pick up some decent new 6x9's and a 4 channel amp to drive it all with a very small footprint..

 
i suggest browsing the forums for a couple days and gather some info yourself to see what type of system you want. If you install everything yourself you will get ALOT more out of your $600 budget.

 
I don't trust myself with the installation, honestly. I'm not very handy, nor do I have the tools.

I believe I have a six-speaker system...would I need a 6 channel amp for that or how does that work? Will there be a huge difference between the stock stereo and a new one?

I would prefer to have no sub, but if I need one, just a small one. I'm not going to rush into anything. Advice is appreciated.

 
Crutchfield says 6.75" rounds for the front, and 5.25" rounds for the back.

If you just want drop-in replacement speakers, and not have to worry about installing component speakers, the Pioneer REV series coaxials are very nice. I don't know if they have a 5.25" version for the back, though. They're about $76/pair at millionbuy.com (Pioneer TS-D161R).

A decent, low-cost 4-channel amp is the Profile AP1040, which is about $90 at millionbuy.

It is possible to use that amp with your stock radio, but you'll most likely get better sound, and better features, with an aftermarket model. I don't have any specific recommendations, it depends what features you want, etc.

 
Would getting component speakers make a big difference as compared with replacement speakers? How does the installation on different sized speakers work? Also, I think there are two little tweeters in the each front door. Can I do anything with these? I think I can be convinced to get a subwoofer as well, as long as it is protected in a box and it is something that I can remove when I go camping. I'm willing to do things right. I just don't want some trunk-rattling stupid stereo. I want it to sounds great and crisp.

In terms of a headunit, I need an iPod hookup and a CD player (mp3 compatible) and a radio. Nothing too fancy, really. I just want to make sure it sounds good.

 
Have you heard good home theater or home stereo setups with a subwoofer and satellite speakers? The subwoofer is there to reproduce the lower end of the audible spectrum, that the smaller speakers can't. All of the speakers in the system should blend in sound, to create a cohesive, seamless sound.

Really, a single 10" in a sealed box is probably all you need. The box will measure about 12"x12"x12". Attach it to a subwoofer amp via a quick-disconnect mechanism, and it can very easily and quickly be removed for additional storage.

Since it sounds like you already have component speakers (you say you have tweeters seperate from the larger door speakers), then some good, aftermarket component speakers would be best.

A lot of people on here say to ditch the rear speakers altogether, and only have a subwoofer in the back, and get a really good sounding front speaker setup. This gives the best stereo imaging and staging.

 
If I put a good headunit and component speakers in there, is it necessary then to amp it as well? I just got back from our local store and he said that the power from the headunit would probbably be enough. I'm definitely going to get a sub now. Is there a big difference between the coax and component speakers in terms of sound? Also, what's the favorite iPod unit around here? I was looking at some Alpine ones at the store and those seemed pretty awesome. This is fun.

 
Speakers will sound way better amped, HU power is not enough for components, running coaxials off the HU I can see, but not with comps, amping components is what makes them better than coaxials and what really makes them sound great and do what they can do!!

I would look at getting a component set up front, with coaxials in the rear, single sub, and maybe a 5ch amp or a 4ch amp(run 2 channels to the comps and 2 to the sub and run the rears off the HU) or you could always have 2 separate amps, one for speakers and a mono for the sub

-Phoenix Gold RSd components are affordable and sound awesome!!

-Profile Amps are good for budgets, along with Refurb Kickers from HifiSoundConnection

-Ya cant go wrong with an Alpine deck or a Pioneer, both are great, matter which one is easier for you to operate and what looks better to you lol, Im a Pioneer fan myself and for you, I would look at the deh-2900/3900/4900ib models, they all should suit your needs!!

 
With your $600 budget, buying from a local shop probably won't get you much. They will **** you on installation prices.

Honestly installing a system isnt that hard. There are 32487563476534765 tutorials on the internet to help you with any problem you have.

If i were you, i would get a 4 channel amp. Buy a set of components and power them off channels 1/2. Then, buy a sub and run that off channels 3/4. Then buy some coaxials for the rear and run them off the head unit.

I suggest installing things yourself. When you are done, you have the feeling that you accomplished something.

 
Yeah, you're right. I'll bite the bullet and just learn how to install stuff myself.

What do people think of the Alpine iDA-X001 for an iPod headunit? That thing is awfully sweet looking. Is it overkill? Maybe I can spend more than $600 if I do it myself. Might as well do it right if I'm going to do it at all.

 
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