New Member, need help picking out speakers

[KotnmthKng 10+ year member]

what about one of these amps?

Pioneer

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=5163

Kenwood

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=2493

 

[Frankensuby 10+ year member]

I cannot seem to find the amp I originally was speaking of. It was roughly 115$ after shipping each though.

If your willing to spend the money, I'd say go for a Phoenix Gold Xenon 100.4 for your speakers, and then you would eliminate some shipping costs and room used. Probably 225$ after shipping, so that's only 25$ more. Just look up the name and read some reviews, people love these things. They are underrated on the spec sheets, so you get more for your $$$

As far as where to get them from, sometimes there are amps in the forums, sometimes E-bay has good deals, and sometimes you have to find online retailers. I like to use a site millionbuy.com when I buy BNIB, they've only been good to me. E-bay has some deals and if you buy from a reputable name on there (store would be your best bet) you shouldn't have any issues.

When I get home I'll rework the pricing for you if you want a single amp setup. If not, I'll rework the 2 amp setup too. Work limits my searching ability (freaking firewall haha)

 

[KotnmthKng 10+ year member]

As far as 1 or 2 amp setup, which ever would be better I guess. See what you can do with $700. I want loud SQ, and I dont want to be disapointed with what I get. Id rather spend a little more now then a lot more later to upgrade. This is a convertible so I want it to still be loud with the top down doing 70 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/peace.gif.2db28b618ed8d1964ebbe2f5021d2c39.gif

For the sub I have decieded on 1 JL 12w6v2 and a JL 500/1.

Thanks a lot for helping me out.

 

[Frankensuby 10+ year member]

Is the 700$ including the sub and amp?

This is the build I'd go with(700$):

PG Xenon 100.4 = 222$ shipped(Flatrate, E-bay = Indoaudio)

Polk MOMO 6500 = 190$ Shipped (E-bay = stereosource)

Polk MOMO 5250 = 170$ shipped (E-bay = stereosource)

Total with shipping = 582$, assuming that 700$ didn't include the sub and amp, and deck.

That will give you great midbass response, crystal clear and smooth tweeters, and some room to spare. If you feel the need for more power, there are other options, but the next size up Xenon is 200.4. That 100.4 should probably bench around 110 watts RMS per channel or so. In fact, I wish I'd have bought this system. I spent nearly the same on a much crappier system //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[Frankensuby 10+ year member]

From Sounddomain.com

phoenix gold xenon 100.4 400w rated birth= 444w

Thread (last post) : http://forum.sounddomain.com/forum/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=043686;p=

 

[KotnmthKng 10+ year member]

Thanks again. Yeah, I meant $700 for interior speakers/amps. Those polk speakers look good, except I need an 6x8/5x7 for my frontstage. Could the 6.5" fit relatively easy? Or would it be better to go with something that is the right size?

 

[mlstrass 5,000+ posts]

6.5" will fit that opening with an adapter plate.

If looking to save a few more $$$ I'd recommend the Profile AP1040 amp at millionbuy. Solid amp for under $100....

 

[Frankensuby 10+ year member]

Thanks again. Yeah, I meant $700 for interior speakers/amps. Those polk speakers look good, except I need an 6x8/5x7 for my frontstage. Could the 6.5" fit relatively easy? Or would it be better to go with something that is the right size?

Crap, I completely forgot haha, sorry. I'm in a rush to get to work, and I work late tonight, so I won't be able to post anything I don't think. If I do, it'll be around 1 in the morning or so.

Sorry bout that //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

Just look around on E-bay, woofersetc.com, millionbuy.com, sonic electronix, indo audio, etc.... for the 5x7/6x8 (theyt seem to group them together).

I gotta go, just remember to look for something that can handle 1oo+ watts, and is a fairly known name. Audiobahn doesn't count either //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[KotnmthKng 10+ year member]

Im reading more and more on here and I see that a lot of people dont even use rear speakers. However in my car the rears are right behind the front seats. If I do get rear speakers do I need amped comps or would coaxials ran of the HU be fine?

 

[Frankensuby 10+ year member]

Im reading more and more on here and I see that a lot of people dont even use rear speakers. However in my car the rears are right behind the front seats. If I do get rear speakers do I need amped comps or would coaxials ran of the HU be fine?

It is really subjective. With the power your front speakers will be recieving, I'd say you'll need atleast 60 RMS going to the rears. A good coaxial would work fine I believe.

Are those rear speakers aimed at the seats from behind?

Either way, you can run the rear off of deck power, but it would be better to get good coaxials atleast and then just turn the amp down on the rear.

The reason why many do not use the rear speakers is because of soundstage. I prefer the extra fill and midbass, but I also turned down my rear channels a tad so that the music sounds balanced.

Also, It is easier to go with 6.5" for the fronstage, solely because of choice. There are few components in that size, and even fewer of great quality. An adapter would be easy to make, and with a little tweaking, you could just cut and glue/seal an adaptor into the stock speaker housing, assuming I saw correctly and the speakers go into an enclosure.

And another thing, If you want to save cash, and are willing to keep the gains down on the rear stage, you get get a set of Phoenix Gold Octane ZR components for dirt cheap. They handle 75 RMS and run 100$ shipped at most.

 

[Frankensuby 10+ year member]

In fact, I would jump all over these for your rear fill! Cheap, will easily handle what you throw at it, and a dependable driver. If I needed some strong midbasses, I'd buy those.

You could turn the tweeters all the way down on those and just let the midbass hammer away, so as to not detract from your fronstage alot. heck, you could filter the rearstage so It even takes less away. You have plenty of tuning options available. Hell, I might grab a set for the midbass drivers alone!

 

[KotnmthKng 10+ year member]

Is the 700$ including the sub and amp?
This is the build I'd go with(700$):

PG Xenon 100.4 = 222$ shipped(Flatrate, E-bay = Indoaudio)

Polk MOMO 6500 = 190$ Shipped (E-bay = stereosource)

Polk MOMO 5250 = 170$ shipped (E-bay = stereosource)

Total with shipping = 582$, assuming that 700$ didn't include the sub and amp, and deck.

That will give you great midbass response, crystal clear and smooth tweeters, and some room to spare. If you feel the need for more power, there are other options, but the next size up Xenon is 200.4. That 100.4 should probably bench around 110 watts RMS per channel or so. In fact, I wish I'd have bought this system. I spent nearly the same on a much crappier system //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

Right now I'm think of going with this setup. Now, would the amp being running 4 channels 1 to each crossover at 100 watts each? Or would it be better to bridge it and run 2 channels front and rear at 200 watts each? Then I could run 125 watts to the front and 100 to the rear.

 

[Frankensuby 10+ year member]

As stated, the PG will probably be closer to atleast 110 per channel, so that's plenty of ear abusing power. If you want 200 to play with, just get the 200.4 haha.

Bridging the amp would only allow you to run 2 channels to the front, I can't think of how it would work any other way. Also, I was reading up on some bench sheets, and I'm seeing that specs on the Xenon are actually alot better, with S/N's that are spec'ed at 100 DB, are actually as high as 115.

 

[coolguy448 10+ year member]

also if you're running the cheaper comp set in the rear you can go with an even nicer front set //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif maybe try that new premier set out http://cgi.ebay.com/Pioneer-Premier-TS-C720PRS-63-4-Component-Speakers-6-75_W0QQitemZ290074272195QQihZ019QQcategoryZ18800QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

(im not much on polks for some reason, thats my ears though)

the phoenix gold amp is good stuff though. +1 on that

 

[KotnmthKng 10+ year member]

Well I had a chance to listen to some speakers yesterday at Tweeter. They had the Polk Momos, Focal 165a1's set up in the same room. I liked the Focals better. The ones I found online were 165v2s the 130H 5.25s for the back. They are rated 75 and 60 rms respectivly.

They also had JL ZR's, they are expensive, but they sound awesome.

I am also thinking about the Rainbow SLC line. They have both 6.5 and 5x7's. What are the pros and cons of each size. The 5x7's will fit without modifcation, any reason I should still do 6.5s?

They also have a 5.25 midrange. This seems like a pretty good setup since I have heard a lot of good things about rainbow, however I havent heard any myself