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[Carnivorous18 10+ year member]

What are you doing for electrical, sound deadener, enclosure, and your front stage?
You said you have $1,500 to work with and you're spending the overwhelming majority of your budget on a subwoofer.

true. if your gona throw it all into a sub then the sub more than likely will overpower everything else. Unless you plan on upgrading the rest of that later like i've done. But do know whats ahead of you

 

[Dase 10+ year member]

What are you doing for electrical, sound deadener, enclosure, and your front stage?
You said you have $1,500 to work with and you're spending the overwhelming majority of your budget on a subwoofer.

true. if your gona throw it all into a sub then the sub more than likely will overpower everything else. Unless you plan on upgrading the rest of that later like i've done. But do know whats ahead of you

What do you mean as far as electrical goes? Sound deadening can wait, that's not something that has to be done straight away... As I mentioned I already have my enclosure and if u remember I said I can go over 1500 but Id just prefer to keep it under... Front stage? As in speakers? If you do mean speakers, they can stay stay stock (car has a full McIntosh system from factory so its an aiight system as it is..) All that aside, I dont see how I am spending most of my budget on my sub when the amp and is costing me around the same, my enclosure is a few hundred and I've picked one of the best 0 Gauge wiring (according to the forums). I don't see how you both think most of my cash is goen towards the sub??

Anyway can anyone give me advice on them amps? Would the pioneer or the soundstream that I mentioned in my last post be better? I also got recommended by a shop to use a Mmats 2000.1 anyone had any experience with these? What would be the pick out of them? Or am I discounting an amp that I haven't found yet?

 

[misfit138 5,000+ posts]

- I asked about your electrical system because you can't simply throw massive amplifiers and subwoofers into your car without proper electrical support. Wiring, battery, and alternator upgrades could, and most likely are, necessary.

- Sound deadening can wait, you're right about that. But most people consider it a part of their install. In fact, deadening your vehicle is generally the opening stage of a proper install.

- The "box" you already have may not accomodate the XXX. If you'd care to do some research you may find that RE Audio's recommended enclosure specs for the XXX are off by a mile. Many people will tell you that the XXX thrives in huge sealed enclosures. You may not even have enough room to use this particular woofer properly.

- I'm glad that your vehicle has a McIntosh factory system. I'm sure it sounds pretty nice. How do you think it'll sound once you have a very powerful amplifier and subwoofer installed? It'll likely be weak as shit in comparison.

- If you really think spending half of your total budget on a subwoofer and the other half on a monoblock amplifier & a wiring kit is acceptable, you might as well opt for a pure SPL sub. Any "real" system is only as good as the front stage. After all, subwoofers only cover a portion of sound. Without a proper front stage, the nicest sub on earth is just a speaker in a box.

 

[hatedonmostly 5,000+ posts]

OP, wait three to six months before buying anything, and just read the posts on here to learn. By then, you should be ready to make a purchase, after being well educated.

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[hatedonmostly 5,000+ posts]

- I asked about your electrical system because you can't simply throw massive amplifiers and subwoofers into your car without proper electrical support. Wiring, battery, and alternator upgrades could, and most likely are, necessary.
- Sound deadening can wait, you're right about that. But most people consider it a part of their install. In fact, deadening your vehicle is generally the opening stage of a proper install.

- The "box" you already have may not accomodate the XXX. If you'd care to do some research you may find that RE Audio's recommended enclosure specs for the XXX are off by a mile. Many people will tell you that the XXX thrives in huge sealed enclosures. You may not even have enough room to use this particular woofer properly.

- I'm glad that your vehicle has a McIntosh factory system. I'm sure it sounds pretty nice. How do you think it'll sound once you have a very powerful amplifier and subwoofer installed? It'll likely be weak as shit in comparison.

- If you really think spending half of your total budget on a subwoofer and the other half on a monoblock amplifier & a wiring kit is acceptable, you might as well opt for a pure SPL sub. Any "real" system is only as good as the front stage. After all, subwoofers only cover a portion of sound. Without a proper front stage, the nicest sub on earth is just a speaker in a box.

Bro, the OP is like a 16 year old kid who wants sum subs 2 bang but instead has a bigger allowance. He don't give a shit 'bout dat sound dead'na or electrical upgradez, 'nam sayen? And fact'ry speakaz jus' fine fo' now, don't need 2 hear da werds 2 da song newayz.

Let him install what he wants, and when everything blows, maybe then he will come and listen to us.

 

[misfit138 5,000+ posts]

Bro, the OP is like a 16 year old kid who wants sum subs 2 bang but instead has a bigger allowance. He don't give a shit 'bout dat sound dead'na or electrical upgradez, 'nam sayen? And fact'ry speakaz jus' fine fo' now, don't need 2 hear da werds 2 da song newayz.
Let him install what he wants, and when everything blows, maybe then he will come and listen to us.

I've tried to be a voice of reason for the guy. It obviously ain't working. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Dase 10+ year member]

- I asked about your electrical system because you can't simply throw massive amplifiers and subwoofers into your car without proper electrical support. Wiring, battery, and alternator upgrades could, and most likely are, necessary.
- Sound deadening can wait, you're right about that. But most people consider it a part of their install. In fact, deadening your vehicle is generally the opening stage of a proper install.

- The "box" you already have may not accomodate the XXX. If you'd care to do some research you may find that RE Audio's recommended enclosure specs for the XXX are off by a mile. Many people will tell you that the XXX thrives in huge sealed enclosures. You may not even have enough room to use this particular woofer properly.

- I'm glad that your vehicle has a McIntosh factory system. I'm sure it sounds pretty nice. How do you think it'll sound once you have a very powerful amplifier and subwoofer installed? It'll likely be weak as shit in comparison.

- If you really think spending half of your total budget on a subwoofer and the other half on a monoblock amplifier & a wiring kit is acceptable, you might as well opt for a pure SPL sub. Any "real" system is only as good as the front stage. After all, subwoofers only cover a portion of sound. Without a proper front stage, the nicest sub on earth is just a speaker in a box.

Bro, the OP is like a 16 year old kid who wants sum subs 2 bang but instead has a bigger allowance. He don't give a shit 'bout dat sound dead'na or electrical upgradez, 'nam sayen? And fact'ry speakaz jus' fine fo' now, don't need 2 hear da werds 2 da song newayz.
Let him install what he wants, and when everything blows, maybe then he will come and listen to us.

Yea I know that I might be needing a 2nd battery or a H/O alternator or whatever when it comes to electricals but I'll let the guys at the shop decide what needs to be done.

Dude its the missus car, it is not going to be a HUGE system and probably wont get thrashed heaps often.. Sound deadening can definately wait as you said...

Read my previous posts mate, I haven't bought anything yet, including the enclosure. I am getting a fibreglass enclosure custom made after I have decided on everything.

As far as the speakers go, it wont be "weak as shit" its just the difference between an upgraded part of the stereo and a stock part... More upgrades can be done later ya know haha...

Well the XXX is mostly SPL anyway I know they say its SQL but I beg to differ after listening to them.. Front stage as in speakers? Dude I can deal with that later, remember its just the missus car!!

Still: Hahaha you're just some wak assuming wanker who has no idea who they're talkin about!! If im 16 then you must be around 5 for being so immature in my thread! Nah I dont give a f*** about sound deadening right now cause like I said its not gonna get thrashed being the missus' car!!! And im weellllllll aware of the electrical upgrades that need to be done!!!! And if you had some sort of brain youd know that McIntosh make some decent quality s**t and they'll be fine for the mean time IN THE MISSUS CAR!!!!!!! So unless you've got some useful advice for my amp question then you can keep your stupid posts outta this thread aiight??!

Let me just add a lil something too, how the f*** could a 16 year old have an '05 H2 Hummer 6.0L, an '04 Subaru Liberty 3.0L and also what 16 year old has a house with their missus and can buy a car for her? So next time you see a thread or sumn from me, keep on goin cause I dont wanna hear anything else from ya! Peece out.

 

[hatedonmostly 5,000+ posts]

Yea I know that I might be needing a 2nd battery or a H/O alternator or whatever when it comes to electricals but I'll let the guys at the shop decide what needs to be done.
Dude its the missus car, it is not going to be a HUGE system and probably wont get thrashed heaps often.. Sound deadening can definately wait as you said...

Read my previous posts mate, I haven't bought anything yet, including the enclosure. I am getting a fibreglass enclosure custom made after I have decided on everything.

As far as the speakers go, it wont be "weak as shit" its just the difference between an upgraded part of the stereo and a stock part... More upgrades can be done later ya know haha...

Well the XXX is mostly SPL anyway I know they say its SQL but I beg to differ after listening to them.. Front stage as in speakers? Dude I can deal with that later, remember its just the missus car!!

Still: Hahaha you're just some wak assuming wanker who has no idea who they're talkin about!! If im 16 then you must be around 5 for being so immature in my thread! Nah I dont give a f*** about sound deadening right now cause like I said its not gonna get thrashed being the missus' car!!! And im weellllllll aware of the electrical upgrades that need to be done!!!! And if you had some sort of brain youd know that McIntosh make some decent quality s**t and they'll be fine for the mean time IN THE MISSUS CAR!!!!!!! So unless you've got some useful advice for my amp question then you can keep your stupid posts outta this thread aiight??!

Let me just add a lil something too, how the f*** could a 16 year old have an '05 H2 Hummer 6.0L, an '04 Subaru Liberty 3.0L and also what 16 year old has a house with their missus and can buy a car for her? So next time you see a thread or sumn from me, keep on goin cause I dont wanna hear anything else from ya! Peece out.

umad?

 

[misfit138 5,000+ posts]

Adding a huge subwoofer on more than 1,000 watts of power to a stock sound system is garbage. Doesn't matter if the stock speakers are McIntosh or not.

And why are you asking for "advice" when you already know everything? Just buy your XXX, Pioneer amp & fiberglass enclosure, and throw it in your car with zero deadening and a stock front stage. I'm sure it'll be amazing.

 

[misfit138 5,000+ posts]

Oh yeah, and this. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

As I mentioned I already have my enclosure

Read my previous posts mate, I haven't bought anything yet, including the enclosure.

 

[Dase 10+ year member]

umad?

Not mad just sick of time and bandwidth wasters!

Adding a huge subwoofer on more than 1,000 watts of power to a stock sound system is garbage. Doesn't matter if the stock speakers are McIntosh or not.
And why are you asking for "advice" when you already know everything? Just buy your XXX, Pioneer amp & fiberglass enclosure, and throw it in your car with zero deadening and a stock front stage. I'm sure it'll be amazing.

How is it garbage? I'd loveee to know that one hahahahaha!! It'll pump for now and as I get more spare cash I'll throw it towards upgrading the rest cause at the moment im movin house, just bought another car and I'm in the midst of changin jobs so $1500 is just a temp budget... I nevveerrrrr said I knew everything otherwise I wouldnt be posting on here for advice. I never had a go at you so I dunno why ur being so b****y to me?

Oh yeah, and this. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Dude wtf! As I said I CHOSE my enclosure and am getting it custom made!!!!!

 

[misfit138 5,000+ posts]

How is it garbage? I'd loveee to know that one hahahahaha!!

Big bass + stock front stage = garbage We've covered this. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

You'll find out for yourself soon enough.

Dude wtf! As I said I CHOSE my enclosure and am getting it custom made!!!!!

Okay, tell us a little about your plans for this enclosure. How big will it be? Which direction will the sub fire? Will the enclosure be sealed or ported? What about the tuning frequency?

 

[Dase 10+ year member]

Big bass + stock front stage = garbage We've covered this. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
You'll find out for yourself soon enough.

Yea aiight think what ya want then.. I just rekn ur an absolute & total wanker to tell ya the truth...

Okay, tell us a little about your plans for this enclosure. How big will it be? Which direction will the sub fire? Will the enclosure be sealed or ported? What about the tuning frequency?

I dont decide on that s**t, they ask for some details to build the perfect enclosure for the parts I have. This is the details they ask for and is taken from their website;

Dimensions you have to work with, (width, depth, height)

Explanation of style you would like

Make/model of subwoofers

Dimensions of amps, monitors, etc.

Name of paint color, or vechicle paint code

Any other additional info

 

[misfit138 5,000+ posts]

Yea aiight think what ya want then.. I just rekn ur an absolute & total wanker to tell ya the truth...


I dont decide on that s**t, they ask for some details to build the perfect enclosure for the parts I have. This is the details they ask for and is taken from their website;

Dimensions you have to work with, (width, depth, height)

Explanation of style you would like

Make/model of subwoofers

Dimensions of amps, monitors, etc.

Name of paint color, or vechicle paint code

Any other additional info

I'm just trying to help you. You're just too fucking stubborn or stupid to realize it.

 

[Carnivorous18 10+ year member]

Big bass + stock front stage = garbage We've covered this. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
You'll find out for yourself soon enough.

Yea aiight think what ya want then.. I just rekn ur an absolute & total wanker to tell ya the truth...

I hate to say it bro but he speaks the truth. Any time you start to crank it its gona overpower the rest of the sound. Giving my stock speakers more power did make a difference, but the sub still vastly overpowers everything else. If your wife cares about sound quality shes gona want to be able to hear the rest of the music other than bass. I know wiminz are picky like that :/