My solution to end illegal immigration

[mrogowski 5,000+ posts]

For the record most Mexicans do pay taxes only to never reap the returns. Here is a point. I have a friend who is an installer and has been here since he was 2 years old. He is ILLEGAL! He pays taxes and works like the rest of us. If he gets caught he is going back to Mexico where he has never been before. What are your thoughts on that fellas? You would never ever talk to him and think he is illegal, he cant get a drivers license, and is actually been to college and currently is a nurse and is continuing his education to become a doctor. Here is the kicker, he cant get a job as a nurse or a doctor in the future because he is ILLEGAL!

That's weird. How does this person actually pay taxes? Don't you require a Social Insurance Number to be recognized by the government in order for them to tax you? Or do things work differently in the US?

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I wonder what would be the outcome if you started saying every business found with an illegal working is fined $10,000 per instance, it would probably put a lot of small businesses out of business in the beginning but those business owners don't follow the law in the first place so I don't have much sympathy for them.
I do wonder what the other ramifications would be though.

It depends on the business.

If there was high enough margin, the company would just absorb the cost and perceive the fine as a cost of doing business.

The company could pass those costs on to the consumer.

The company could bribe officials.

Lots of things....I think serving time in conjunction with fines is a better incentive than just fines, as fines are pass-through costs. The CEO serving 2 years in the pokey is not pass-through.

 

[DejaWiz 5,000+ posts]

Love the solution, jman!

That's weird. How does this person actually pay taxes? Don't you require a Social Insurance Number to be recognized by the government in order for them to tax you? Or do things work differently in the US?

I was just wondering the same. If he's illegal and pays taxes, is he using a stolen SSN?

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I was just wondering the same. If he's illegal and pays taxes, is he using a stolen SSN?

Depending on what taxes he pays.

However, stolen and fake SSNs are not uncommon.

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

maybe he means sales taxes on his cheeseburger at mcdonalds

 

[DejaWiz 5,000+ posts]

However, stolen and fake SSNs are not uncommon.

Indeed they are not, which is sad. Identity theft ftl.

 

[drivingreckless 10+ year member]

So, the problem is that illegals are coming here, working for cheap, living like 20 to a house and sending their money to Mexico, all the while taking advantage of our tax-supported services. Oh what shall we do?
Simple. Keep 'em all here, and have Congress pass a law that illegalizes the payment of illegal aliens for work. Farmers will no longer have to pay the illegals, and get to keep them as a source of free labor. Runaway Mexicans can be treated like runaway slaves in the pre-Civil War era. They will be chained up at night, and if they try to run during the day, their owner can sic his dogs on him.

That way, no more messicans will want to cross the border.

The glory of the slavery era can return!

your ignorant.... maybe you forgot that americans stole the land from native americans??? and Now your promoting Slavery??? thats pretty **** stupid. LAND OF THE FREE *******....

hopefully everything you mentioned was a joke if not you have some serious issues.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

your ignorant.... maybe you forgot that americans stole the land from native americans??? and Now your promoting Slavery??? thats pretty **** stupid. LAND OF THE FREE *******....
hopefully everything you mentioned was a joke if not you have some serious issues.

There is a difference between theft and a land grab.

 

[drivingreckless 10+ year member]

no not really.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

no not really.

Well then I guess you should be complaining to nearly all of the world then. I can only think of a few places that were not a theatre of battle over resources.

The Indians landgrabbed the animals...

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

your ignorant.... maybe you forgot that americans stole the land from native americans??? and Now your promoting Slavery??? thats pretty **** stupid. LAND OF THE FREE *******....
hopefully everything you mentioned was a joke if not you have some serious issues.

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[drivingreckless 10+ year member]

rofl....maybe you forgot that most of them embraced nature.Theres difference between slaughtering animals and living among them.

 

[drivingreckless 10+ year member]

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wierd sense of humor bro.

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

wierd sense of humor bro.

you should see some of the stuff Faulkton and Eugenics post.

 

[drivingreckless 10+ year member]

you should see some of the stuff Faulkton and Eugenics post.

dont think i want to =P