My pg rsd65cs review as promised

[skydeaner 10+ year member]

I think the tweeters are a little overpowering at times. I am working on disecting the crossover for bi-amping per phoenix gold's recomendations. If i could calm the whole tweeter section down by like 2db's i think they would be perfect for my tastes. If anyone has any suggestions on the easiest way to do this, let me know. They haven't emailed me back a second time yet. Just the first time saying this:

No easy answer here.

The crossover in the kit provides time corrections and frequency

corrections, both electrically and acoustically for good summing between

the drivers. (We use computer modeling software to do this.) You could

use an electronic crossover, but the necessary corrective parameters

would not exist. (It may sound worse.) You would need a custom

crossover/equalizer with the matching system corrective parameters which

we do not offer.

Another alternative would be to physically breakdown the RSD65cs passive

crossover input into two inputs, and bi-amp the system. The passive

crossover sections would then maintain the proper corrections, with the

added benefit of level adjustments between the component sections for

some balance refinements could be done at the amplifiers inputs. Also

each section would have lower total distortion with the separation of

amplifiers. It has be done.

We appreciate your enthusiasm and loyalty towards the PG products.

Hope this helps

Thank you.

Glenn Phillips

Rodin Acoustics

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

i honestly do not think they are over powering at all and i listen to a lot of metal that i have heard sound very harsh on other setups. i actually have 8khz and 12khz boosted just a tad on my EQ. what exactly sounds overpowering? the real real high like cymbol crashes or higher frequency guitar notes? i think it might be the higher mid-range thats giving you problems. i had to cut 2khz and i think 3.5khz to take the edge off on certain guitar notes. i have heard of others with the same set taking out the same frequencies to take some harshness out of certain female vocals as well so try that.

also where are they mounted? also on-axis or off-axis?

i have my tweets in the kick panels pointed pretty close to on-axis. probably just a couple degrees off and i think they sound very good and extremely detailed, but not one bit harsh or overpowering.

 

[skydeaner 10+ year member]

After i moved mine to the kicks they sound a lot better. I may just mess with the eq some more, i dunno.

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

After i moved mine to the kicks they sound a lot better. I may just mess with the eq some more, i dunno.

try to take a lil out in the 2khz to 5khz range and see how you like it. i thought they sounded a bit to bright in the 2-3.5k region for the music i listen to. but i think thats the upper region that the woofer plays. i'm not sure where the crossover point is on the passive crossover but i am willing to bet it's above 3khz. i bet it's probably about 4-5khz.

 

[Etac 10+ year member]

it could also be.. (no rsd expierence myself so)

thats it not the speaker thats bright... or tweeter.. our hearing is just more sensative to that range... my cmx kicks get that way too from the 2-4 range... but i measured with an RTA to see if it was peaking..but their response was pretty **** flat throughout that range...

and just like the post above said.. i thought it was my tweets forever... and tried moving them everywhere to help fix it.. but it was actually the mids...

 

[.::DuD3::. 10+ year member]

Are any of you running this set actively? If so, what are your crossover settings and how much power are you able to safely run to each speaker?

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

Are any of you running this set actively? If so, what are your crossover settings and how much power are you able to safely run to each speaker?

i haven't heard of anybody actually running them active. i would say try 75-100 or so watts on the mids and about 25-50 watts on the tweeters. maybe start with 3k for the crossovers. but i could be way off, i have never tried active yet.

get an amp that does 100-150x4 @ 4 ohms, and maybe start with the numbers i suggested. but honestly i'm not even sure what ohm load the drivers would be w/o the crossover. so i can't help much. this is all just what i would try if i went active with them.

 

[skydeaner 10+ year member]

I would say start with a higher point for the tweeter crossover just incase. It sounds like it might be into the 4-5 region.

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

I would say start with a higher point for the tweeter crossover just incase. It sounds like it might be into the 4-5 region.

yea i think in the factory passive it is probably in the 4-5k region.(just a guess) but i bet the tweeter could play a bit lower. i wonder if PG would tell us the crossover point if somebody asked.

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

ready to get rid of my shit........

 

[skydeaner 10+ year member]

ready to get rid of my shit........

what do you mean?

 

[skydeaner 10+ year member]

yea i think in the factory passive it is probably in the 4-5k region.(just a guess) but i bet the tweeter could play a bit lower. i wonder if PG would tell us the crossover point if somebody asked.

a bit lower with a steeper slope would be nice, yeah.

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

they sound good as they are though. i love my set of RSD's!!!

 

[skydeaner 10+ year member]

I've been messin with them some more. I ended up having to cut the 300-400hz range a couple db's. The voices were overly bassy and it was making a lot of songs sound weird. Shit i forgot i have to get some foam i accidentally threw away out of the garbage.

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

what do you mean?

i have crystal comps....sscs models and i am am not happy with them and/or the midbass. my little 5.25 stocks with the rotted foam surround and powered off the HU dug deeper than these