It doesn't matter "when" your second one is. Before you workout (30 min before) you should have some light complex carbs and a little protein, but that's not to say you NEED the second shake to be right before your workout. I take one at 9am with breakfast, another at noon with lunch, good size snack around 3, workout at 4 and then take double scoops after your workout. Then of course dinner. Taking that extra scoop right after your workout is essential IMO. But I most likely have different long term goals than some of you guys. Building mass and strength is what I focus on. 5'10", 170 lbs and bench 310 2 full reps //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif