CA was king with a very loyal citizenship. I think the chickr and the egg story applies here. I see it more like the 50,000 other sites popped up because CA started faultering. I feel that is why CACO is the power house it is now. it isn't anywhere near perfect, but it seems to have what a lot of guys are looking for. DIY has, is and always will be the same and their members are die hard! Here the site gets a new layout, almosst everyone hates it, so the change stays, hell even Coke admitted the fvcked up when the put out that new Coke crap.
Hmmmmm