LOUD Highs..... more speakers OR just better speakers?

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

You seem to believe that there is a universal correlation between night time and temperatures being lower than day times...that is not true. If you'd like to believe it, that's fine, but it's simply not the case. Temperatures change due to other reasons, and no given night is colder than any other given day. Saying your system's sound carries farther at night than during the day assumes that every night is colder than every day, which is obviously not the case. You can make absolute statements about air temperature changing this, but you can't do so about night vs. day.
As for assuming king not knowing - well, his entire post was full of dumb**** statements; i don't think it's much of a jump to see that he meant night, not 'colder'.

Perhaps you didn't realize the sun is what heats the Earth. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif Without outside forces at work, the temperature will always drop when the sun goes down. Am I saying its universally colder at night, the words you are now trying to put in my mouth? No, obviously not. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif But you still refuse to admit that, generally, its colder at night than during the day (given any night and preceeding day... not the July night and December afternoon examples you like to discuss) and that's most likely what ranch meant. At this point who cares, I just like watching how far you'll go to avoid simply saying "yeah I might have been wrong about #4".
Lets see, in your mind king ranch correlates light, or the lack there of, with sound volume... something you already admit is common sense to refute. And in your mind Im saying its always colder every single night than any day, anywhere, ever. If you really believe this stuff, you are delusional. Im gonna give you the benefit of the doubt this time tho, and assume you are justing pulling this ridiculous crap out of your *** in an attempt to save face. All this, just to avoid simply saying "yeah I might have been wrong about #4".

lol

 

[ultimate157 5,000+ posts]

Headless, you're a moron.

 

[WOT]

Lot of answers on a point that really doesnt matter, and not on the thread topic lol

I need ideas on how to get my highs way up there within my budget

 

[headless 10+ year member]

Here's a really simple example i'm sure you can understand. Today it is 75f. Tonight, temperatures drop to 40f. Sound carries better. Tomorrow, temperatures continue to drop to 35f. Now, are you trying to tell me that because it was night that sound would carry better than tommorrow, just because it's night? No, you aren't - because night has nothing to do with it, only temperature and density of the air. If it's 60f tonight but tommorrow is colder, 40f, then tommorrow - daytime - sound will carry better than tonight - night time. Night time does not make sound travel differently, temperatures of the air do. It is not uncommon for temperatures to be lower one day than they were the night before, it happens all the time during the change of the seasons around here.

This is a simple example that you can either take issue with, or agree with; if you disagree, you're going against simple scientifically proven logic and are a dumbass, if you agree, then we've been arguing about semantics from a third party, and you're still a dumbass. Thanks for this opportunity to realise how much of an idiot you are - i'm going to go do something worthwhile now.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Here's a really simple example i'm sure you can understand. Today it is 75f. Tonight, temperatures drop to 40f. Sound carries better. Tomorrow, temperatures continue to drop to 35f. Now, are you trying to tell me that because it was night that sound would carry better than tommorrow, just because it's night? No, you aren't - because night has nothing to do with it, only temperature and density of the air. If it's 60f tonight but tommorrow is colder, 40f, then tommorrow - daytime - sound will carry better than tonight - night time. Night time does not make sound travel differently, temperatures of the air do. It is not uncommon for temperatures to be lower one day than they were the night before, it happens all the time during the change of the seasons around here.
This is a simple example that you can either take issue with, or agree with; if you disagree, you're going against simple scientifically proven logic and are a dumbass, if you agree, then we've been arguing about semantics from a third party, and you're still a dumbass. Thanks for this opportunity to realise how much of an idiot you are - i'm going to go do something worthwhile now.

You are right, your mythical example of it being 75 one day, and 35 the next, happens all the time right? So, seeing that form of regularity, obviously king ranch was correlating his louder system at night, with the absence of light. Have I got your story straight yet?
Hey genius, as cute as your little mythical example was, nobody is contradicting that air temperature plays the key role. At this point you dont even seem to be keeping up with the discussion.

 

[SSS 18734 5,000+ posts]

That's weird...

for the next 10 days, air temperatures in Florida are, on average, about 20 degrees cooler at night than during the day...

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USFL0106?from=36hr_topnav_undeclared

WTF?????

 

[SSS 18734 5,000+ posts]

All kidding aside, here are my two cents.

The presence of light energy heats the air. So indirectly, light DOES have an effect on sound in virtually all situations.

Let's look at a parallel case to illustrate the fallacies in your argument. It's the same as saying that a bullet to the head won't kill you. It's the massive bleeding and tissue damage that does. By that same logic, a bullet to the head doesn't ALWAYS kill, so that must mean that the bullet has nothing to do with consequential death (in most cases).

Have a nice day //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[headless 10+ year member]

Summer in Florida does follow the pattern of 'day is hotter than night', because summer in florida sees blistering hot sunlight during the day... but there are plenty of times that this is not true; it's not uncommon at all for night to be warmer than the next day during seasons changing, or for a specific night to be warmer than the next several days in some cases. Perhaps you've never been around when a cold front sweeps through, dropping temps in 10-12 hours by 10-20f, but it's not uncommon in spring and fall here.

If you want to make a statement like it's fact, you need to be sure that it is a fact. In the case of 'sound travels farther at night', the statement is false. If you revise your statement to 'sound travels farther in denser, cooler air', then you're making a correct statement.

If you're comfortable referring to something as fact because it's 'usually' true, have fun with that. I suspect you'd be a little bitter if someone was claiming that it's fact that you'll survive a gunshot wound simply because the majority of gunshot wound sufferers survive their wounds, only to find out that yours isa fatal wound. Hey, it's usually true, so what's the big deal? Fact is fact.

If you want to live in a dream world where the presence of light or lack thereof is the only thing that effects air temperature from day to day, then that's your decision. In the real world, things other than day and night have effects on temperatures of the air. If you want to claim that night time causes sound to travel farther than day time, go ahead; i could care less at this point how stupid you sound when you claim these things; i'm done trying to point out how this is inaccurate.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Summer in Florida does follow the pattern of 'day is hotter than night', because summer in florida sees blistering hot sunlight during the day... but there are plenty of times that this is not true; it's not uncommon at all for night to be warmer than the next day during seasons changing, or for a specific night to be warmer than the next several days in some cases. Perhaps you've never been around when a cold front sweeps through, dropping temps in 10-12 hours by 10-20f, but it's not uncommon in spring and fall here.
If you want to make a statement like it's fact, you need to be sure that it is a fact. In the case of 'sound travels farther at night', the statement is false. If you revise your statement to 'sound travels farther in denser, cooler air', then you're making a correct statement.

If you want to live in a dream world where the presence of light or lack thereof is the only thing that effects air temperature from day to day, then that's your decision. In the real world, things other than day and night have effects on temperatures of the air. If you want to claim that night time causes sound to travel farther than day time, go ahead; i could care less at this point how stupid you sound when you claim these things; i'm done trying to point out how this is inaccurate.

And you cant say "its colder in the winter" because some jack *** might try to compare summer in Alaska to winter in Arizona. Right? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif
Go poll 100 people and ask them "is it colder at night?". See how many say 'yes', 'no', or 'well gee it depends on if a cold front moves through or if God alters reality sometime in late afternoon'.

The dream world here is you continuing to think you are talking over people's heads. Oh wow, you're right, might very well have a warm front move through at dusk, therefore making the generalization that 'its colder at night' laughable. Right? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

You were trying to make someone else look stupid, and in the process made yourself look dumb. It happens, get over it.

 

[king ranch 5,000+ posts]

I just had to quote this because it's ****ing hysterical
1. You bought a sony xplod amplifier.

2. You think your sony xplod amp is actually putting out 200w rms per channel.

3. You bought 5 inch 'tweeters', and actually think 200w rms is needed for tweeters.

4. You think that things sound louder because it's dark.

5. You mounted speakers on the grill of your truck.

You idiot.

i am not an idiot first off second you can kiss my azz i study weather and meterology and plan to major in it so i wasnt referring due to the darkness and no light said that because at night the air is cooler especailly in night so sounds travel farther.

i mounted bullet tweeters in my grill for a reason for 1 my own taste 2 for partys and when i am out at pasture partys chilling with friends and 3rd so i can listen to music and not have my windows down or truck doors open

and sony xplod amps arent bad as you may think just because they arent top of the line doenst mean anything and because you dislike them its the 1200 watt that has 2 40 amp fuses so i am sure it does 400 watts between both channels or close to it

and no 200rms isnt needed for tweeters but if i want the power its there thats like saying why do people give subs or comps more than what they are rated for

those tweets i have are rated for 400rms a piece

so hey how about you go to helll

 

[headless 10+ year member]

You fail to understand that king ranch might very well be a meteorologist who knows all this better than you and I combined...

am not an idiot first off second you can kiss my azz i study weather and meterology and plan to major in it

Oh, so you ARE a meteorologist; it all becomes clear now - audioholic is defending his little butt-buddy and doesn't want to look like a jackass. Too late! No wonder you claim to understand what he 'meant' vs what he said; i'm sure you guys were discussing it over coffee after the latest *******ing fest.

If you're the future of meteorology, i'll remember not to be surprised when the weather man doesn't have a clue what's going on. If you think those 5" drivers with 2kg+ magnets and 2+ inch voice coils are tweeters, more power to you //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif You're still an idiot.

 

[king ranch 5,000+ posts]

why dont you just go somewhere and quit being mad, you made yourself look like an idiot

 

[headless 10+ year member]

LOL, don't feel bad king, i'm sure you're an excellent meteorologist-to-be.

 

[the727kid 10+ year member]

Skipped through the BS. But to OP, just buy used CD1pros, I run them and they are LOUD. With under 50 watts per side, people sitting my car ask me to turn it down right away because of them, even people in the back seat, where I don't have any speakers. HLCDs are about your only option for getting super loud and having SQ still, unless you got something like the H701 to smooth it all out, and still probally won't have as good imaging.

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

You're asking for way too much for only $200 kid...

Minus whale pick up two component sets...

nG