LMS Ultra...what do we know about it

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

IMHO it's a nice woofer. Worth a new price of $7-800. A woofer has to be pretty **** special to warrant $2k.

...like gold plated //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

is it better than the newer xxx's that ask for the same price tag (retail)?

 

[Rashaddd 5,000+ posts]

is it better than the newer xxx's that ask for the same price tag (retail)?

I'd say it is...at least easily on paper...the way I see it, its like an xxx that'll take 5k daily and well over that for burps, and only needs 4-6 cubes of airspace (for the 18)

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

interesting, but that is a LOT of money

no wonder not many people are running them.

nice on the small box though

i put an MT in a box that was 3.7 and it slammed as well (an 18)

 

[Rashaddd 5,000+ posts]

interesting, but that is a LOT of money
no wonder not many people are running them.

nice on the small box though

i put an MT in a box that was 3.7 and it slammed as well (an 18)

Don't people pay 500-1k+ for the higher end DD subs?

Sure retail on these is 2k, but that's really just cuz they bumped the price up like hell to try and stay in business...I believe they originally sold at under 1k new

 

[LDW3RD 10+ year member]

interesting, but that is a LOT of money
no wonder not many people are running them.

nice on the small box though

i put an MT in a box that was 3.7 and it slammed as well (an 18)

hmm

thread jack/

tuned to what?

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

37 with a lot of port

put up a 146.5 @ 46 on 1500w

not too bad....

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

Don't people pay 500-1k+ for the higher end DD subs?
Sure retail on these is 2k, but that's really just cuz they bumped the price up like hell to try and stay in business...I believe they originally sold at under 1k new

honestly ive never looked at DD

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Nice sub. Not worth the money. I could spend less $ on two lesser subs and still make them 1) louder, and 2) sound better.

 

[LDW3RD 10+ year member]

37 with a lot of port
put up a 146.5 @ 46 on 1500w

not too bad....

Nice.

 

[bose301s 5,000+ posts]

Nice sub. Not worth the money. I could spend less $ on two lesser subs and still make them 1) louder, and 2) sound better.

Louder sure, but the sounding better part isn't. First and foremost it's subjective, secondly the LMS are some of the best measuring subs out there so they should sound amazing.

 

[JL Audio 5,000+ posts]

Louder sure, but the sounding better part isn't. First and foremost it's subjective, secondly the LMS are some of the best measuring subs out there so they should sound amazing.

are you seriously trying to tell audioholic of all people that the sound is subjective?

i'm sure he didn't know this, thanks for pointing him in the right direction.

/sarcasm

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Louder sure, but the sounding better part isn't. First and foremost it's subjective, secondly the LMS are some of the best measuring subs out there so they should sound amazing.

If you want to play the subjective game, we could all run Pyle subs and claim they sound awesome. Point is, you can get two lesser subs, equaling greater displacement, to display less distortion than the fabled LMS would. Simple fact that actually applies to most 'supersubs' these days. Difference is, LMS's price has made it abundantly clear. Much like the debate over the value of a UL12. Are they awesome? Sure. But when you have to start quoting used prices to find a reasonable value (performance versus price) that should tell you there is a problem.
What was msrp on the LMS before AudioPulse had their famous overnight price increase? MSRP was right around $800 iirc. But now we quote that as the used price, and claim that's a solid deal. I guess it is, if you just have to have an 'LMS Ultra' for bragging rights. If Im gonna drop that kinda cash on a single driver, i'll wait for the sicko-x to come out.

Nothing taking away from the LMS Ultra's performance. But its price tag has made it obsolete to anyone concerned about a price/performance ratio.

 

[bose301s 5,000+ posts]

If you want to play the subjective game, we could all run Pyle subs and claim they sound awesome. Point is, you can get two lesser subs, equaling greater displacement, to display less distortion than the fabled LMS would. Simple fact that actually applies to most 'supersubs' these days. Difference is, LMS's price has made it abundantly clear. Much like the debate over the value of a UL12. Are they awesome? Sure. But when you have to start quoting used prices to find a reasonable value (performance versus price) that should tell you there is a problem.
What was msrp on the LMS before AudioPulse had their famous overnight price increase? MSRP was right around $800 iirc. But now we quote that as the used price, and claim that's a solid deal. I guess it is, if you just have to have an 'LMS Ultra' for bragging rights. If Im gonna drop that kinda cash on a single driver, i'll wait for the sicko-x to come out.

Nothing taking away from the LMS Ultra's performance. But its price tag has made it obsolete to anyone concerned about a price/performance ratio.

Ok, I didn't mean that sound quality can't be measured to a degree, obviously it can, but once you get those subs that are up there like the UL12, the LMS Ultra, the RE XXX, the Aura and the SI Mag V4, you get to a point where it almost becomes a preference for one sound versus another rather than one which measures a lot better because they measure so close to each other anyway.

And yes, they are ridiculously overpriced, even $800 was somewhat high IMO, but for $2k it is just stupid.

 

[photocrazy8 10+ year member]

oh noes i know where this thread is going...

after owning about 5-7 of these and their variants i do really like this sub...