Lets discuss tipping

wow you didnt read my other post did you?
i tip everytime, and a minimum or 15%. i tip a $5 minimum on meals that are $10. if thats a 50% tip then so be it. i start to increase my tip as soon as i reach the 15% threshold.

i feel just as shitty about you guys getting ***** by your employer, but i also dont understand why you guys put up with it and then EXPECT tips as if its a given. you deserve to be paid AT LEAST the minimum wage, and then tips can be added because you were a good server. hell i tip the ****ing home depot kid who cuts my wood, why? because i can appreciate a good job. but i dont want to hear a sob story because your employer is a cheap *** who doesnt value a good employee.
I don't really know anybody who complains about the $2.13 an hour that we get paid. I just know that while I'm still in school.. it's the most money that I could make with my limited availability and few hours that I'm able to work during school.

I'm completely fine with the hourly wage I get even though I know I won't see a paycheck and the end of every two weeks. Plus I get free food/beer while I'm working so I take that into account too. I do see your point though about the employer not having to really pay out any money.. I'm not really worried about it though. I make decent money and everybody is happy.

 
Hey douschebag, news flash:
I wasnt tooting my own fuckinng horn. I dont claim to make the most money, but i was proving a point. Entry level at my job is 14 / hr, take home ~1000-1100 biweekly with the benefits i get. I dont ride on my ******* parents coat tails you stupid ****, i pay to rent the attic out, i pay part of the electric, gas and water, i buy my own food, pay for my own car, pay my student loan, cell phone, buy my own clothes, the only thing i dont do is actually live by myself. I'm in the process of finding an apartment with reliable roommates.

i honestly couldn't give two shits if you made 50/hour at 20. school didnt work for me, i couldn't afford it. i don't come from a rich family.

again, shit you don't know about me, so stfu>

people like you need to shut their ******* mouth before they run it, a lot of people would bust you in your ******* face for talkin like that wannabe big shot behind a computer screen you bob ross penis ****** ho
So are we talking two seperate bills for the utilities here?

 
i served tables for years. made a good living too, enough to build a car that went 11.7@117.xx on tips. i made good tips almost all the time. my service was excellent however. nobody ever went thirsty, they knew i knew they were there from the moment they sat down, etc.on the random occasion that some cheap *** piece of shit decided that they could order a $45 meal and leave me $5 as a tip, i felt like pulling that steak back out his throat with my bare hands. by him sitting there for an hour and giving me $5, he cost me $5 more because i could have had a different customer who would tip properly and i would have made $10 off that table that hour.

if you can afford a $45 meal, you can afford a proper tip. if you can'ta fford to tip properly, buy something cheaper.

now my wife accuses me of tipping too much, as i haven't waited tables in years, but i can't help it. unless the service sucks. then they get whatever i feel they deserve. a bad server needs to know they ****, so they can either improve or quit.
whose to say what is a proper tip? i say your employer needs to pay you a proper wage first...if the employer can afford to run a restaurant day in and day out for years at a time, he can also afford to pay you properly.

btw, what kind of car was it? got any pics?

jamseypoo: i can see your point.

 
should restaurants pay a good wage? sure, but if they did, customers would be paying $22 for a hamburger. a good server makes about $20-25 an hour on tips. for the restaurant to pay that, menu prices would increase astronomically.

here in KY, $2.13/hr is all that's required by law for a restaurant to pay a tipped employee. sure they could raise that to minimum wage or even a bit more, but then everyone would know servers are making more so they would tip less.

 
tip your valets... they will thank you

realy now.. 2 or 3 bucks is all

if you dont tip someone who parked your car.. drops off your holiday shopping bags and drives your car back.. your considered a cheep ***

 
should restaurants pay a good wage? sure, but if they did, customers would be paying $22 for a hamburger. a good server makes about $20-25 an hour on tips. for the restaurant to pay that, menu prices would increase astronomically.here in KY, $2.13/hr is all that's required by law for a restaurant to pay a tipped employee. sure they could raise that to minimum wage or even a bit more, but then everyone would know servers are making more so they would tip less.
not me. in fact i used to think they were payed minimum wage. it was only very, and i mean VERY recently that i learned they make less. but my tips have never changed from that 15-50% tip i post about earlier. even when i assumed they made more money i gave better tips than lots of people lol.

the prices would only soar astronomically for a short time, before the restaurant saw that they need to lower prices on those $22 hamburgers and pay their employees a "fair" wage (at least what i consider fair), when no one wanted to eat or work there. at least thats my opinion, i dont know how it would work in real life as i have not owned a restaurant or a business at all.

btw, any pics of that car? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
whose to say what is a proper tip? i say your employer needs to pay you a proper wage first...if the employer can afford to run a restaurant day in and day out for years at a time, he can also afford to pay you properly.btw, what kind of car was it? got any pics?

jamseypoo: i can see your point.
well, that all depends on who you ask i guess. a cheap bastard will say $5. someone who works for a living would say $9 (me). rich people are the worst, they tip worse that those people living paycheck to paycheck.

who is to say what a proper wage is? if you ask me, i'd do it for $22/hr, no tips needed, that's what a good server will make in a decent , not super expensive, restaurant. you ask the restaurant owners, they['ll say minimum wage at best. well whoop dee dooo.

extra 2 bucks an hour really doesn't make that much of a difference, i'd still be pissed to see a 10% tip on meal that i provided excellent service on.

the car was an eagle talon tsi awd.

here are a couple pics:





 
not me. in fact i used to think they were payed minimum wage. it was only very, and i mean VERY recently that i learned they make less. but my tips have never changed from that 15-50% tip i post about earlier. even when i assumed they made more money i gave better tips than lots of people lol.
the prices would only soar astronomically for a short time, before the restaurant saw that they need to lower prices on those $22 hamburgers and pay their employees a "fair" wage (at least what i consider fair), when no one wanted to eat or work there. at least thats my opinion, i dont know how it would work in real life as i have not owned a restaurant or a business at all.

btw, any pics of that car? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
you're obviously a good tipper. some people just are and some people just arent'. i learned to live with it a long time ago but it still pisses me off to see someone leaving shitty tips. my wife leaves bad tips sometimes until i notice and make her add some more!

see my post above for what a "fair" wage is for servers and pics of the car.

 
well, that all depends on who you ask i guess. a cheap bastard will say $5. someone who works for a living would say $9 (me). rich people are the worst, they tip worse that those people living paycheck to paycheck.
who is to say what a proper wage is? if you ask me, i'd do it for $22/hr, no tips needed, that's what a good server will make in a decent , not super expensive, restaurant. you ask the restaurant owners, they['ll say minimum wage at best. well whoop dee dooo.

extra 2 bucks an hour really doesn't make that much of a difference, i'd still be pissed to see a 10% tip on meal that i provided excellent service on.

the car was an eagle talon tsi awd.

here are a couple pics:



sexy car! VERY clean too.

by "proper" wage, i meant at least minimum wage. is minimum wage enough cash? no, but at least its not as insulting as getting paid $2 an hour.

also, IMO, minimum wage could make a HUGE difference in some areas. if your getting paid $3 an hour here in california, by 2008, you'd be making $8.00 by going to mimimum wage. almost 300% or your current wage (without tips at least)

 
thanks for the compliments. funny thing about wage is, i always said i'd work for free. don't even pay me as i never get a check anyway.
lol. i had a teacher a long time ago, whose paycheck was direct deposited into his wifes account //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 
minimum for servers here is $4.xx. The reason it is lower is because the government figures your tips are part of your wages. You are also taxed on your tips, unless you work under the table at some grease pit.

The big tippers compensate for the no tippers. My wife makes $50k a year and works a measly 34 hours a week.

 
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