Kenwood X693 vs Alpine 9887

[1hawaii50 10+ year member]

I also ran one for over a year, and I had the "Imprint" kit. You have bass/treble controls until you run Imprint. Quite a few reviewers here who also were glad they ran the Imprint, so they could "unlock" their head units.

http://www.car--subwoofers.com/S-m4oIcpd1TSn/p_500KTX100E/Alpine-KTX-100EQ.html?tab=review&rvm=ShowAllt

 

[cleansoundzz 10+ year member]

I also ran one for over a year, and I had the "Imprint" kit. You have bass/treble controls until you run Imprint. Quite a few reviewers here who also were glad they ran the Imprint, so they could "unlock" their head units.
http://www.car--subwoofers.com/S-m4oIcpd1TSn/p_500KTX100E/Alpine-KTX-100EQ.html?tab=review&rvm=ShowAllt

Just my point exactly. The imprint kit costs extra money which in my mind defeats the purpose.

 

[FJF 10+ year member]

If you don't buy/rent the Imprint kit, YOU CANNOT UNLOCK THE SETTINGS IN THE HEAD UNIT. The unit is "LOCKED" out of the box, you must use the Imprint unit to unlock the unit.

I run a 9887. It's not "locked." I couldn't quite grasp why you were arguing so vehemently, when you're completely incorrect, and came across this thread:

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=326503

So, what happened? Did someone sell you a 9887 and convince you to buy the Imprint kit, as well? Clearly, you knew very little about configuring a system and even less about the operation of the deck. It probably didn't take much to pull the wool over your eyes, and apparently you still believe the same nonsense. Is there another explanation?

 

[1hawaii50 10+ year member]

I run a 9887. It's not "locked." I couldn't quite grasp why you were arguing so vehemently, when you're completely incorrect, and came across this thread:
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=326503

So, what happened? Did someone sell you a 9887 and convince you to buy the Imprint kit, as well? Clearly, you knew very little about configuring a system and even less about the operation of the deck. It probably didn't take much to pull the wool over your eyes, and apparently you still believe the same nonsense. Is there another explanation?

So I guess all of the other people that have to buy "imprint" to unlock their units must be stupid too? Google KTX-100eq, and you would see I'm not the only one...but then again, what do I know? What the other thread has to do with this, I have no idea, but whatever makes you right.

 

[raverx3m 10+ year member]

Mr 1hawaii guy let me clarify to you what imprint is and what parts are involved.

the imprint is auto sound tuning by means of microphone and automatic equalization thru the imprint sound manager. so you dont have to do it.(in other words the imprint adjusts the settings for you)

CDA-9887

taken from alpine.com

Customize your Sound

If you like to tweak your sound, this is the head unit for you. It gives you 6 channels of Digital Time Correction, 3-way or 2-way crossover, 7-band graphic EQ or 5-band parametric EQ. You can manually toggle between the CDA-9887 default sound setting and IMPRINT to tune your sound the way you want.

comes with all the settings built in (also known as BASS ENGINE PRO in older units)

hence the different unit required for it:

KTX-100EQ IMPRINT Sound Manager is a calibration software kit designed for the exclusive use with the CDA-9887

cda-9886 and other imprint capable units

The CDA-9886 is IMPRINT ready – Just add an IMPRINT PXA-H100 audio processor for automatic sound tuning or powerful manual tuning options. Precise control and corrections yield enhanced sound so you can enjoy an optimal listening experience. IMPRINT automatically measures the entire listening area, capturing time domain and frequency response information from each listening location to process and improve the sound at every seat in your vehicle

so in other words other units come with BASS ENGINE not PRO like 9887

so they dont have 6channel time corection, 3 way crossover, parametric/graphic eq etc

they require the IMPRINT PXA-H100 module that has the BASS ENGNE PRO IN IT. and then it requires the KTX-h100 that has the software and microphone.

in other words

CDA-9886 + PXA-H100 + KTX-H100 = CDA-9887+KTX-100EQ

btw imprint modules dotn "unlock"ur unit, they add features to it thats all.

 

[1hawaii50 10+ year member]

Mr 1hawaii guy let me clarify to you what imprint is and what parts are involved.
the imprint is auto sound tuning by means of microphone and automatic equalization thru the imprint sound manager. so you dont have to do it.(in other words the imprint adjusts the settings for you)

CDA-9887

taken from alpine.com

Customize your Sound

If you like to tweak your sound, this is the head unit for you. It gives you 6 channels of Digital Time Correction, 3-way or 2-way crossover, 7-band graphic EQ or 5-band parametric EQ. You can manually toggle between the CDA-9887 default sound setting and IMPRINT to tune your sound the way you want.

comes with all the settings built in (also known as BASS ENGINE PRO in older units)

hence the different unit required for it:

KTX-100EQ IMPRINT Sound Manager is a calibration software kit designed for the exclusive use with the CDA-9887

cda-9886 and other imprint capable units

The CDA-9886 is IMPRINT ready – Just add an IMPRINT PXA-H100 audio processor for automatic sound tuning or powerful manual tuning options. Precise control and corrections yield enhanced sound so you can enjoy an optimal listening experience. IMPRINT automatically measures the entire listening area, capturing time domain and frequency response information from each listening location to process and improve the sound at every seat in your vehicle

so in other words other units come with BASS ENGINE not PRO like 9887

so they dont have 6channel time corection, 3 way crossover, parametric/graphic eq etc

they require the IMPRINT PXA-H100 module that has the BASS ENGNE PRO IN IT. and then it requires the KTX-h100 that has the software and microphone.

in other words

CDA-9886 + PXA-H100 + KTX-H100 = CDA-9887+KTX-100EQ

btw imprint modules dotn "unlock"ur unit, they add features to it thats all.

Soooo, Imprint just adds features that you can't access unless you run the Imprint? That sounds like it "unlocks" features to me? I fully understand what the Imprint is, and what it does. There are 2 verrry long threads both here and at DIYmobileaudio discussing Imprint and how to do it. I guess all of those people were suckered into buying too?

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67549

http://www.canadiancaraudio.com/online/general-sq/29949-new-thread-alpine-cda-9887-a-7.html

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-8RtEE7kAVWq/App/Spanish/

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?p=28428352

http://www.car--subwoofers.com/S-tYMJhJCgjCE/p_500KTX100E/Alpine-KTX-100EQ.html?tab=review&rvm=ShowAllt

Just a quick google search turned up others who feel Imprint is needed to "unlock" tuning features. Call it unlock, call it "access", I don't care.

If you don't want to use the Imprint, then don't use it.

 

[FJF 10+ year member]

So I guess all of the other people that have to buy "imprint" to unlock their units must be stupid too? Google KTX-100eq, and you would see I'm not the only one...but then again, what do I know? What the other thread has to do with this, I have no idea, but whatever makes you right.

Unbelievable. You even quoted the 9887 manual showing that the PEQ/GEQ, T/A, X-over settings, etc can be toggled with Imprint (ie. auto-tuning), illustrating no need to "unlock" anything. A 9886 does need Imprint to "unlock" its tuning features, but a 9887 doesn't. Since you asked, yes, I think you're stupid. To wit (your own quote):

"If you like to tweak your sound, this is the head unit for you. It gives you 6 channels of Digital Time Correction, 3-way or 2-way crossover, 7-band graphic EQ or 5-band parametric EQ. You can manually toggle between the CDA-9887 default sound setting and IMPRINT to tune your sound the way you want."

 

[FJF 10+ year member]

Soooo, Imprint just adds features that you can't access unless you run the Imprint? That sounds like it "unlocks" features to me? I fully understand what the Imprint is, and what it does. There are 2 verrry long threads both here and at DIYmobileaudio discussing Imprint and how to do it. I guess all of those people were suckered into buying too?
http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67549

http://www.canadiancaraudio.com/online/general-sq/29949-new-thread-alpine-cda-9887-a-7.html

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-8RtEE7kAVWq/App/Spanish/

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?p=28428352

http://www.car--subwoofers.com/S-tYMJhJCgjCE/p_500KTX100E/Alpine-KTX-100EQ.html?tab=review&rvm=ShowAllt

Just a quick google search turned up others who feel Imprint is needed to "unlock" tuning features. Call it unlock, call it "access", I don't care.

If you don't want to use the Imprint, then don't use it.

Imprint allows for auto-tuning on a 9887. That's what the threads you linked discuss - AUTO-TUNING. It's astonishing that you can't comprehend that. Everything else - the EQs, the x-overs, etc - comes built-in. That's not the case with a 9886, but it is with a 9887.

Ultimately, I don't care what you believe. Clearly, you lack the basic cognitive coherence to understand the written word, and amazingly enough, to operate a deck you actually owned. You know nothing about audio and it fuels your mindfruck of an argument. Out of all the dumb crap posed on this forum, this week's prize is yours.

 

[m2002brian 10+ year member]

he knows they're built in. There just not accessible w/o an add on. If that's not the case then be more clear.

as in tell him, step by step, how to get a parametric eq on his 9887 w/o an add on.

 

[raverx3m 10+ year member]

dude do you even know what the argument is about?

you should because you started it

ok MR hawaii #1 read slow this time

UNLOCKING means the features are already present on the unit and you enable them by means of a code or a flipping the switch or other methods

ADDING a feature means the unit does NOT have the feature built in and REQUIRES a module that has it.

in other words "unlocking" and "adding" are NOT the same word(might be a surprise for you) otherwise there would be one word with both meanings

Just a quick google search turned up others who feel Imprint is needed to "unlock" tuning features. Call it unlock, call it "access", I don't care.

--------------------------------

If you don't want to use the Imprint, then don't use it.

So I guess all of the other people that have to buy "imprint" to unlock their units must be stupid too? Google KTX-100eq, and you would see I'm not the only one...but then again, what do I know?

--------------------------------

If you don't buy/rent the Imprint kit, YOU CANNOT UNLOCK THE SETTINGS IN THE HEAD UNIT. The unit is "LOCKED" out of the box, you must use the Imprint unit to unlock the unit.

u dont really make much sense to begin with(obviously you red the articles you keep posting links to. yet u still say the unit is LOCKED out of the box...

imagine buying a car.

u go to a dealer and buy a car, it drives and all but has no stereo or speakers... what do you do in that situation?

U UNLOCK the features that came with the car, mmmmkayyyyyy?

like u know, you go to cartoys and buy a stereo that will unlock your factory dash hole and transform it into an MP3 cd player with 50x4 watts of power.

and when you go to dealiership do you expect to buy a cadillac escalade with all features included for 5000 dollars?

why do you expect to get more than what you give for it?

the nit costs that much, if you want to have the bass engine pro(imprint) buy this module, if you want to also tune the car then buy a microphone.

 

[m2002brian 10+ year member]

So in english

the Alpine is on Verizons network. Sure it has all the feaures built in, but you gotta pay more to get access to them. What a bunch a shit.

I would need a code to access them, please. If they're built in they should be accessible straight out of the box. No other option should be considered! Otherwise, whats the point of a 9987 vs. 9986 if they both need code/add-on for full access?

 

[FJF 10+ year member]

he knows they're built in. There just not accessible w/o an add on.

All tuning features are available to the user without an add-on, on a 9887, except for auto-tuning. This includes the EQs, T/A, x-overs, processing, etc. Is there an echo in here? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/banghead.gif.8606515f668c74f6de0281deb475b6fd.gif

If that's not the case then be more clear.
as in tell him, step by step, how to get a parametric eq on his 9887 w/o an add on.

He has the manual and might want to read it. If he can't figure out which button to push and the sole knob to turn, there are larger issues at play.

 

[m2002brian 10+ year member]

See that was plain and simple.

Access w/o add-on:

EQs, T/A, x-overs, processing, etc.

Access w/ add-on:

EQs, T/A, x-overs, processing + Auto-Tune

 

[FJF 10+ year member]

So in englishthe Alpine is on Verizons network. Sure it has all the feaures built in, but you gotta pay more to get access to them. What a bunch a shit.

There's nothing else to buy to access a 9887's tuning features. They are available by pushing a button on the faceplate. What do you not understand?

I would need a code to access them, please. If they're built in they should be accessible straight out of the box.

No need for a code. Everything, except for auto-tuning, is accessible straight out of the box on the 9887.

No other option should be considered Otherwise, whats the point of a 9987 vs. 9986 if they both need code/add-on for full access?

The difference between the two - besides the DSP, lighting, layout - is that a 9886 needs Imprint to unlock its tuning features and a 9887 doesn't.

 

[FJF 10+ year member]

See that was plain and simple.
Access w/o add-on:

EQs, T/A, x-overs, processing, etc.

Access w/ add-on:

EQs, T/A, x-overs, processing + Auto-Tune

You could have just RTFM.