JL's not tough enough?

[mattj 5,000+ posts]

I hope you don't think I hate JL. I still think they sound amazing or I wouldn't have bought some for my mom for christmas. :readytogo

I got a book for my mom that she really wanted for Xmas and put it in an alpine 7894 box. She thought she got an alpine for christmas. LOL

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[Diplexers 10+ year member]

JL's are easily blown. I currently have an oversized paperweight in my hatch as evidence. AKA 10w3, it had been used a fair amount, but by no means abused, and was given proper power and enclosure. The one next to it is also on its way...sounding progressively more like ***.
I've had more bad encounters with JL than good when it comes to the durability department.

As for my personal opinion, JL is good stuff...good sound. But I will never purchase any of their products, period. Not for me.

God called in sick? I'm still laughing

 

[Diplexers 10+ year member]

I got a book for my mom that she really wanted for Xmas and put it in an alpine 7894 box. She thought she got an alpine for christmas. LOL//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/satan.gif.9c6a335ed7aeeed3ee273e573f1fcaac.gif

thats even funnier //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/satan.gif.9c6a335ed7aeeed3ee273e573f1fcaac.gif

 

[morris85 10+ year member]

God called in sick? I'm still laughing

Old AFI song. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[smullen 10+ year member]

I have blown 2 10w3s, (one at atime) but it was my fault not the sub. I was putting to much power to them and driving them too hard...

Right now I have 3 12W6s in a 1.2cu foot per sub box and I play the shit outta them. I am planning on upgrading soon as I get the money, but the 12W6s aren't bad at all..

If you are a pounder that is say 70% SPL and 30% SQ, I'd say JLs not for you... If your more into SQ, but would like some serious low end re-inforcement then I'd recomend them...

 

[limitkid7 5,000+ posts]

blew a 12w3 (had to to get correct sub i wanted*)

and 12w6v2 (didn't have any idea what i was doin)

 

[slvraccrd02 10+ year member]

I have a friend that is currently running dual 12W3v2's with a Phoenix Gold Tantrum 1200.1 running them. Each woofer is seeing around 600 watts rms a piece and the are rated for 300. He has been pounding on them for almost a year now with no problems.

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

What were the circumstances? If blowing a speaker is all it takes for you to constantly hate a company, then with that logic, you should hate every speaker company. I'm not trying to harp on you, I'm just trying to understand what happened to cause them to blow.

the box was to specs, and they were being pushed by one Kicker ZR1000, so 333watts, well more like 400 each , should not have blown them

 

[Fibaglassa 10+ year member]

first of all i want to say i do not hate jl

but i have seen so many w0's and w3's blow its not even funny

the problem is that while they sound really good in many different enclosures they

will just not hold up to the kind of pounding that bassheads want.

but i have only good things to say about the v2 series... havent seen one blow yet so im thinking they fixed somthing

 

[Lonestar]

One of the shittiest days ive had in a while was about 6 months ago when i blew my 13W7, JL quoted my 300$ for repair. Im not sure if i will ever, just bought 2 12" MTX 9500's

 

[bri487 5,000+ posts]

i gave two W6AE 12"s 1000 watts and they acted like it was just foreplay.

 

[GSteg 10+ year member]

One of the shittiest days ive had in a while was about 6 months ago when i blew my 13W7, JL quoted my 300$ for repair. Im not sure if i will ever, just bought 2 12" MTX 9500's

wanna sell me that blown 13w7? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[smullen 10+ year member]

I'm running over a 1000 (somewhere between 100-1400) to three 12W6v1s and they like seem to like it...

But I need more.. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif One day maybe!!!!!

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

they will just not hold up to the kind of pounding that bassheads want.

Not JL's market audience.

If all you want to do is drive around with the bass blaring, pissing people off with your "music", and generally giving the car audio aftermarket a bad rep then JL subs are not for you. Don't buy them. Avoid them like the plague. You can spend less money and get the noise you want. If you think that you need 1kw on a sub to make up for your lacking elsewhere, then JL is not for you. If on the other hand, you listen to MUSIC at a reasonable level and want accurate reproduction of the bottom octaves, then look at JL.

I've not been on this forum long but I've grown sick of every response to somone's question being "those subs ****, these get louder." Whoopty frickin' do. There is so much more to a quality sub than getting loud and unfortunately that point is lost on too many people. SPL competition is one thing and I respect the guys that do it and do it well. Punk kids who don't think that they get enough attention and so want to make everyone look at them because they are just the "coolest" with all their racket are another story. They give the industry/hobby/sport a bad name, just like street racers give the performance aftermarket a bad name. Any sub can be blown. Especially by these idiots cause they think that the gain adjustment is a volume control. That think that bass boost will somehow allow their system to defy physics and produce more power than it is capable of producing. They run their amps way beyond clipping and, since they bought the biggest inexpensive amp they could, it does not react well to being clipped. Subs die horribly. Blame the subs. Its their fault they can't handle 1kW of DC. Ported boxes are louder. Tuned to 45 Hz is louder still (Sounds like @$$ with music but loud is all that matters, right?). These subs are rated for 400W. I only have 300W so I'm safe. Hey this CD has really low bass, like 15Hz. Hey why are my subs destroyed? They ****.

JL has won a ton of awards and competitiors using their products have won competitions at every level. SQ competitions. JL subs are not rated to handle a whole lot of power. The thing is they are efficient drivers and don't need a lot of power to do their job: play low frequency musical material accurately. There are many subs out there that have better excursion capabilities than most all of JL's line of subs and make better drivers in an SPL application, but there are not many drivers that will deliver the detailed sub-bass at moderate levels and with low power that the JLs can.

I case you can't see through my sarcasm, my point is that JL subs are made for a certain segment of the market, and that segment is not the street beaters or bassheads. That segment is those of us that like music and want it accurately reproduced with correct tonal balance and don't want to have to replace every component in the charging system in our car to power the small nuclear reactor that is running our stereo system. Saying that they **** because they don't soak up a ton of power and get really loud is like saying that Ali wasn't a great athlete because he couldn't play hockey.

 

[ss3079 5,000+ posts]

helotaxi owns. Period.

End of story.

- Steve