JL10w7 for SQ?

[cotjones 10+ year member]

ok first of all a ton of people are talking about the w7 being too "boomy" or exadgerating the low-end this is very common as people often try to put the w7 in an enclosure smaller than it is rated for or a low 30's hz ported... the result is over emphasized lows.

also he's asking about the 10, which doesn't emphasize lows as much as its larger versions

another common misconseption is that the w6 is more accurate than the w7... again not true, the w7 rips the w6 a new *** in the right enclosure in sq and spl... again assuming that you have the right enclosure and right amount of power. i've been argued with ALOT about this but in my experience there is definitly a such thing as too little power for a w7 and it negativly effects performance. if you are willing to spend the time and money to actually do the 10w7 right, you won't find much you like better.

got a buddy with 3 13w7's in the back of his yukon they are in a ported/transmission line box, on 3 1000/1's he can't crank them as loud as they could go because of voltage drops, (he also has 2 300/2's) but i have NEVER heard cleaner bass from anything.. period.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

From what I've heard, the W7 is a little tricky to get the right enclosure for. The W6 is supposed to be much easier to work with and many people prefer its sound over that of the W7. I've heard a lot of people commenting on the "Hollow" sound of the W7.

this is true but considering the w7 setups i've heard the ones complaining bout the hollow sound probly did something wrong or at least not as good as it should be. also the material of the box... gotta be mdf! my buddy with the 13's used that moldeable plywood stuff turned out awsome, i would recommend it!

 

[Hintzyboy 5,000+ posts]

Ah crap!! Cotjones strikes again. To thhe OP, please disregard what this guy says. He's been banned before for giving advice in places where his knowledge falls short. There is a reason half of the people on this forum quote him in their sigs. And it sure as hell isn't because they admire his wisdom.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

Ah crap!! Cotjones strikes again. To thhe OP, please disregard what this guy says. He's been banned before for giving advice in places where his knowledge falls short. There is a reason half of the people on this forum quote him in their sigs. And it sure as hell isn't because they admire his wisdom.

OP how bout you deside what advice to take yourself... and since all these people that are so "knowledgeable" don't contradict the argument with fact, whats not to believe. and no i was banned because a mod was an ******* and thought he could ban me because i dissagreed with him

 

[Hintzyboy 5,000+ posts]

Really? I thought it was bcause of the hundreds of useless posts. And you can't exactly compare two subs based on fact. There are too many variables, and much of it is subjective. But the "hollow" thing is something I have heard multiple times from many different people on this forum. Somehow I doubt they all made a major error in the enclosure design.

I do not claim to be an expert on the W7. My experience with that sub has been pretty minimal. I just can't justify plopping down that kind of money for a sub when I'm not sure it will do what I want without a crapload of work.

 

[BJ The Man 10+ year member]

i got a buddy with a 10w7 in the jl HO box with 600 alpine watts to it. Its a little sloppy and boomy but i would think that its just the box doing that. the sub definitely sounds good tho

 

[Hintzyboy 5,000+ posts]

i got a buddy with a 10w7 in the jl HO box with 600 alpine watts to it. Its a little sloppy and boomy but i would think that its just the box doing that. the sub definitely sounds good tho

Sloppy and boomy but sounds good?? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

And you can't exactly compare two subs based on fact.

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do not claim to be an expert on the W7. My experience with that sub has been pretty minimal. I just can't justify plopping down that kind of money for a sub when I'm not sure it will do what I want without a crapload of work.

well then don't attack my threads without a basis of fact. i want you to give your opinion that you think its too expensive to buy without knowing... but that in NO way makes my post not credible

 

[michaelsil1 10+ year member]

I talked with the Tech at JL he suggested I get the 12 W7 over the 10 W7 for SQL. I now have the ProWedge 12 W7 it definitely has very good SQ but, I had to wait for it to break in first.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

I talked with the Tech at JL he suggested I get the 12 W7 over the 10 W7 for SQL. I now have the ProWedge 12 W7 it definitely has very good SQ but, I had to wait for it to break in first.

lol are you suprized he suggested spending 200- 300 bucks more on his company's product? not saying that there isn't a reason it cost's more

 

[Immacomputer 10+ year member]

ok first of all a ton of people are talking about the w7 being too "boomy" or exadgerating the low-end this is very common as people often try to put the w7 in an enclosure smaller than it is rated for or a low 30's hz ported... the result is over emphasized lows.

Wait... a smaller enclosure emphasizes the lows?

Wait... you're saying that you should tune the enclosure higher for better SQ? Hmm...I didn't know a peaky response was desired for an SQ setup. I learn something new every time you post.

I actually think the main reason people claim the w7s are boomy is because of their lack of upper frequency extension when you port them. Also, you're going to be boosting the lower octaves when you port anything and combine that with lowering upper frequency extension, you will usually get a boomy response in the low end.

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

I'm pretty sure the W7's bl curve is ruler flat from 20Hz-80Hz.

Not many woofers out there that have that capabilty.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

Wait... a smaller enclosure emphasizes the lows?
Wait... you're saying that you should tune the enclosure higher for better SQ? Hmm...I didn't know a peaky response was desired for an SQ setup. I learn something new every time you post.

I actually think the main reason people claim the w7s are boomy is because of their lack of upper frequency extension when you port them. Also, you're going to be boosting the lower octaves when you port anything and combine that with lowering upper frequency extension, you will usually get a boomy response in the low end.

over-emphasized lows= under-emphasized highs.... we aren't talking about volume, we are talking about requency responce... and porting a w7 to low 30s gives you a lessened responce in highs... its spec tuning is 35 and most people like it higher in the mid 40's..... moron

 

[Immacomputer 10+ year member]

over-emphasized lows= under-emphasized highs.... we aren't talking about volume, we are talking about requency responce... and porting a w7 to low 30s gives you a lessened responce in highs... its spec tuning is 35 and most people like it higher in the mid 40's..... moron

1) You said a smaller enclosure emphasizes the lows. That is WRONG! Bigger enclosures almost always mean more low end and a loss in the upper frequencies. You said the exact opposite... and I'm the moron.

2) You were talking about increasing sound quality and raising the tuning frequency... these things almost never mix unless we're talking about midbass drivers.

3) Please stop throwing around "built to spec" because it's something that's only for people who know nothing about enclosure design... people just like yourself as you have already pointed out.

 

[Hintzyboy 5,000+ posts]

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well then don't attack my threads without a basis of fact. i want you to give your opinion that you think its too expensive to buy without knowing... but that in NO way makes my post not credible

Wow, I wasn't aware that this was YOUR thread. When did that happen? Anyway, you HAVE been confronted with factual information time and time again, but to no avail. You've always come up with some half-assed explanation that to you seems credible, but to us just makes you look like more of a douche.