JL vs. Kicker?? Please Help

[loserpunk 10+ year member]

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haha.....just go outside and listen to your sony's lude...thats where the real spl winner is //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[limitkid7 5,000+ posts]

go with the 13W6v2, but for the same price you could get a tsuanmi DB 1100 and a 15A and have much louder bass with around the same SQ....somethin to think about

DOG, YOU ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WRONG!!

 

[cobra65427289 10+ year member]

lol //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rotflol.gif.b453361716769b8110ddefc85ff03cd2.gif , Snova, i saw the 20 mm excursion thing. the L7 cant even get close to 20 mm. oh man. i would take the W7 over the L7 any day. i have heard both. both get loud but i believe the w7 has more potential loudness than a l7.

al

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

lol //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rotflol.gif.b453361716769b8110ddefc85ff03cd2.gif , Snova, i saw the 20 mm excursion thing. the L7 cant even get close to 20 mm. oh man. i would take the W7 over the L7 any day. i have heard both. both get loud but i believe the w7 has more potential loudness than a l7.
al

Well, I don't know much about the L7 and it's suspension/motor/etc...but it's got around 13mm one way...this is linear, however- I'm not sure whether or not it's somehow limited by it's suspension or motor...but if it's possible for it to get to around 20mm one way movement...it sure isn't gonna like it. The W7 still has a good way to travel before it loses its linearity...

Once again, the W7 has a nice advantage in displacement due to that high xmax figure (~32, I believe?)- which is DUMAX tested, btw.

Lude has to realize that scores don't dictate how a sub will perform in everyday use. If we could say that scores will tell you how great a sub will perform, a lot of people would've traded in their W7 for a CSX //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

The fact of the matter is the W7 is one of the most potent and potentially great sounding woofers on the market- there's no denying that.

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

DOG, YOU ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WRONG!!

15A has a ton more potential output than the W6V2, Warren- a TON.

 

[ss3079 5,000+ posts]

DOG, YOU ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WRONG!!

And you've taken an SPL meter, both subs, the amp, identical vehicle, exact same box, and all of the variables are the same ... measured both, and the W6V2 has come out louder ?

- Steve

 

[S-B 4Life 10+ year member]

lol i love this debate im sorry but u can get about 3 L7 12's for the price of a W7 and the L7 doesnt take as much power and still hits just as hard or harder then the W7

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

lol i love this debate im sorry but u can get about 3 L7 12's for the price of a W7 and the L7 doesnt take as much power and still hits just as hard or harder then the W7

Care to explain how an L7 will 'hit just as hard or harder then the W7'? Please, let me know.

You don't get it. W7 has a ton more potential output than the L7. It displaces a good amount more than the L7.

 

[limitkid7 5,000+ posts]

i don't believe that a 15eda will / does have more spl / sq - all of the above more than a 13w6v2..... esp off 500 watts

 

[limitkid7 5,000+ posts]

call me stupid if you want....... i would love to see an ed a installed in the "right application" b/c as of right now - they get no props what so ever..... some say phil's install isn't a "real" install, however he has "fixed" is problems (if there were ever any)

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

Warren- it's physics, the 15A will have a good deal more potential output than a w6v2...it's not even a fair comparison...

 

[limitkid7 5,000+ posts]

Warren- it's physics, the 15A will have a good deal more potential output than a w6v2...it's not even a fair comparison...

explain in detail.......

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

explain in detail.......

I don't feel like doing math...but no need to to see the advantage-

Output is dictated by displacement, which is a combination of both excursion and cone area- both of which the A has a good advantage in...

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

Just using simple means ...
15A

58.2 mm p-p excursion

806 cm^2 effective piston area

4690.92 cm^3 linear displacement (4.69 litres)

13W6v2

43.2 mm p-p excursion

648 cm^2 effective piston area

2799.36 cm^3 linear displacement (2.8 litres)

there ya go...

And this is from the 13w6v2...not the 12- still nearly +2 litres over it from the A...

 

[limitkid7 5,000+ posts]

so once again......

off 500 watts you're telling me the ed A will produce more?