JL Audio disappoints me

[negative3five 10+ year member]

Only JL products I've used are a 8"W7 prob the sickest 8" I have ever used def sounded alot louder than a 8 n the SQ was great. The older W6's had the best blend of SQ/SPL in any sub I'e used, and a 15" W3 n that metered the same as my 15" SI mag so in my mind they make great products just pricing is not for everbody. I have to agree with the W7 still being on top in terms of "SQL" I kno everyone hates that term.

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

they definately make a great product but price is a severe issue.

 

[Echo42987 10+ year member]

Because there is none lol

 

[focused313 10+ year member]

JL may not be popular here, but they sell the sh it outta woofers and amps no matter how high the cost. You don't see them worried about the recession. Other companies have come and gone or gotten bought out. JL is still at it and still on top. You can hate on the company, but they still running things.To the OP a recone is a recone, expecting special treatment from a shop you frequent is one thing, expecting special treatment from a company that does global business is kinda naive. Sell the blown sub and get something else! JL probably won't care.

when it comes to JL I think of this quote; "men lie, women lie, numbers don't." they doing numbers so they are doing something right

well said. My entire family has been buying JL stuff for as long as I can remember and nobody has ever complained. I'm sure I can get better for my dollar, but if it ain't broke, why fix it? Everyone doesn't care about going online and registering for some forum......they get money.....go to a shop and say "make this this very loud".......and then the shop throws in JL stuff. If the customer is happy......what's the problem?

JL can't be that bad if they're still outselling everybody else as those ridiculous prices.

I've never had to call JL though, I can take my subs right back to the store I bought them from and they switch them out if need be, which has only happened once.

 

[mmouse57 10+ year member]

JL can't be that bad if they're still outselling everybody else as those ridiculous prices.

JL is good always has been but there are as good or better products

Ever heard of BOSE they use cheap cone speakers with custom crossovers and 6th order bandpass boxes to achoive a basicaly flat sound.

they charge a shit load on money and make a SHIT LOAD of money, but its based on word of mouth and looks and great pr.

I bought the am7 series for $1200 recently with the 3x 5.25in subs in the down firing module. It installed clean, but sound is far from being worth $1200 if i was to peice a 5-7 channel config buying seprate parts, but bose lets you pay monthly 'this was a a plus' and has great customer service and is clean looking

so just becasue Bose outsells everyone doesnt mean they are the best sounding speakers far from it.

back to JL,

They have some subs that are worth the $$ for sound quality and some that dont.

I owned 3 w6 8inchers back in 2000 in a ported box and just recently I did the same type of box with 3 w7 8's and tho the w7 8s seem louder they are in no way a speaker with better SQ that the w6's had which made me order 3 w3 8's to see if i can get the SQ back they had.

 

[okiedokie 10+ year member]

^^^^ intertesting????

 

[focused313 10+ year member]

by the way, I can only speaking on JL subs, nothing else. Ironically, I'd NEVER buy one of their amps and/or component sets for retail. $1,000 for a 1k watt amp, seriously? never. Hifonics has done just fine by me and I'm sure there are dozens of even better amps that don't charge $1 per watt. The only reason I have jl comps and 6x9's is because they were buy one get one free.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

$1/W isn't too bad, considering what's out there //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

^^^^ $1 a watt is a good deal to you? fine buy my 2kw brutus 2010d amp off the thread in the classifieds for $2k instead of 330 shipped lolz.

It will stomp anything JL makes and sounds just as clean.

 

[bass_lover1 10+ year member]

You missed his point.

A JL 1000/1 is over priced for 1$/W (You can get them online for cheaper), yet I hear no *****ing about something like a Focal Dual Monitor. Similar specs, maybe a bit extra power, but also at least double the price.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

^^^^ $1 a watt is a good deal to you? fine buy my 2kw brutus 2010d amp off the thread in the classifieds for $2k instead of 330 shipped lolz.It will stomp anything JL makes and sounds just as clean.

Considering tube amps, for example, can cost hundreds to thousands of dollars for under 10w of power.....yeah, $1/watt isn't such a bad deal.

There are hundreds and hundreds of amps that cost equal to or well over $1/watt.

Everyone likes to criticize JL for their pricing in a product-to-product comparison, JL vs. Hifonics for example, without considering where JL's pricing falls in the grand scheme of the audio market. In the grand scheme of the audio market, they really aren't badly priced.

But ofcourse;

Anything less expensive than JL is a decent deal.

JL is overpriced.

Anything more expensive than JL is worth the cost because of some various aspect such as prestige/etc.

JL is always the cut-off, the line in the sand so to speak, for these discussions.

And to put things into perspective, here's a realistic example; the Alpine PDX-4.150 MSRP's for $750 according to Alpine's website (that's $1.25/watt for those keeping track). The JL HD600/4 is on JL's website for $799.99. That's a difference of $.09/watt, and the JL features selectable 12db/24db slopes which is something the Alpine doesn't offer.

 

[FJF 10+ year member]

my family in Utah (myself included) are pretty good friends with Ron, he used to hook us up with free cable when I had my shop their in Ogden. I never really noticed a dif but it flew off the shelves fast enough for me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

You mean Ray? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[rc10mike 10+ year member]

Ever heard of BOSE they use cheap cone speakers with custom crossovers and 6th order bandpass boxes to achoive a basicaly flat sound.

Thats funny because everyone says its 90% install, 10% equipment. How would this be any different?

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

Considering tube amps, for example, can cost hundreds to thousands of dollars for under 10w of power.....yeah, $1/watt isn't such a bad deal.
There are hundreds and hundreds of amps that cost equal to or well over $1/watt.

Everyone likes to criticize JL for their pricing in a product-to-product comparison, JL vs. Hifonics for example, without considering where JL's pricing falls in the grand scheme of the audio market. In the grand scheme of the audio market, they really aren't badly priced.

But ofcourse;

Anything less expensive than JL is a decent deal.

JL is overpriced.

Anything more expensive than JL is worth the cost because of some various aspect such as prestige/etc.

JL is always the cut-off, the line in the sand so to speak, for these discussions.

And to put things into perspective, here's a realistic example; the Alpine PDX-4.150 MSRP's for $750 according to Alpine's website (that's $1.25/watt for those keeping track). The JL HD600/4 is on JL's website for $799.99. That's a difference of $.09/watt, and the JL features selectable 12db/24db slopes which is something the Alpine doesn't offer.

You like that argument.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

^^^^ $1 a watt is a good deal to you?

The Decware Zen I had was around $400/watt, so yeah, it does depend on the situation //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif