It's war time...

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Originally posted by Bumpin03 on top of the final resolution...he hasnt been complying for 12 years. maybe he needs more time...
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And after I just said you would use that as your 'out'.. thanks for proving my point..

 
Originally posted by snova031 This I actually do agree with you...but do you honestly think the people of Iraq have the courage to stand up to Saddam, after he has killed thousands upon thousands of his own people? Did the Germans stand up to Hitler?
Um.. the Germans loved Hitler.. it was the Jews that were afraid of him.. That's a TOTALLY different situation since the 'strength' of the country was on Hitler's side, and in Iraq, it's a small percentage of the population.. there are a LOT more people that want him dead (or so it would seem) than actually like him.. Freedom takes risks.. we took that risk because it was important to us..

I do agree that yes, we should not be trying to go around and saving everyone around the world...but I also agree that Saddam poses a threat to us...
Not been shown.. sorry.. it's what we are being told as justification, but the only 'would be' support is WOMD, Chem, or Bio weapons.. But, again, he's had those for a long time and never used them on us (except in 91).. so him sitting there in his desert torturing his people is not a threat to us..

Another reason I believe we went after Iraq is so we can gain some more leverage on N. Korea...but what do I know.
I would believe that if.. Bush had not told Germany, Russia, and China to deal with them.. saying that N. Korea was in their back yard so they should deal with it.. by the same logic, Saddam is their problem, not ours..

 
Why did they execute one of their POWs??? Well, we set the precedent for the treatment of POWs long ago. We do the same thing.

This might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen posted. I would LOVE to see ANY evidence that backs that up.

PEACE

 
Originally posted by LWW This has gotten to be so easy man I'm gonna give you the "bottle rockets" since you did only say "bottle rocket".

 

Don't anybody ever say that I don't have a heart of gold.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/nono.gif.eca61d170185779e0921b0faa9704973.gif :nono: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/nono.gif.eca61d170185779e0921b0faa9704973.gif
PULEASE.... don't even try to do me any favors.. I'm spanking you all over the podium just fine, I don't need your 'generosity' for the difference between an "s" and not in a statement.. It's not that 'technical'.. the underlying point is your bastardizing things for you own ends.. Perhaps once you stop taking things out of context I, and others, might start to respect things you post.. but as long as you keep slanting the truth because you know you don't have a valid leg to stand on, I'll not put any merrit in you or your opinions or anything you claim..

Try playing fair.. there's an idea..

 
I'm done with this thread for now...but I would like to ask one question...

Do you honestly think war could have been avoided? Both short and long term, do you actually think that we can live in peace with Saddam? Do you think he will just resign one day down the road if we had not taken some action?

This was building up, it was bound to happen. Peace and negotiation is not always the way out of conflict, sometimes war is needed, check a history book out. Even if we could have avoided war at the present moment, it would have eventually happened, maybe not with Iraq, but maybe even North Korea. If we take care of Saddam, don't you think N. Korea will be a little less inclined to take any action? they do have nukes, after all.

 
Originally posted by snova031 I'm done with this thread for now...but I would like to ask one question...

 

Do you honestly think war could have been avoided? Both short and long term, do you actually think that we can live in peace with Saddam? Do you think he will just resign one day down the road if we had not taken some action?

 

This was building up, it was bound to happen. Peace and negotiation is not always the way out of conflict, sometimes war is needed, check a history book out. Even if we could have avoided war at the present moment, it would have eventually happened, maybe not with Iraq, but maybe even North Korea. If we take care of Saddam, don't you think N. Korea will be a little less inclined to take any action? they do have nukes, after all.
I agree completely.. My point is, we will never know now cuase we didn't even try, not to the end of reasonable.. not in my opinion.. or that of 10s/100s of millions of people around the world..

I'm not saying war is never acceptable, others are saying that. I end up getting lumped into that. I'm saying we ran into this war for Bush's agenda and not for what he claims it's for, if it was TRUELY for what he's claiming (disarming), then we didn't do what we have a responsibility as the most 'just' country in the world to do.. *shrug*

 
Originally posted by LWW So using the learned one's logic TRUTH is an OUT and donkey dung logic is STRAIGHT UP??

 

WOW!

 

PEACE
No, using the same old tired false logic is an out... The TRUTH is we walked away from the diplomatic solution before working it to exhaustion and in the face of compliance..

Not that you can uderstand that concept...

 
Originally posted by LWW Actually YOU have the old stats dude. But you should be used to that. Besides I gave you bottle rocket(s).

 

PEACE
True.. I found the first stats I found and since they showed what I was looking for (your stance) I took it.. didn't bother to find recent info.. mostly because I didn't feel it was an important point //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

And you didn't give me diddly.. There is nothing for you to give, sorry.. I stand on my own merrits and that tears you up when your derailing tactics don't get you ahead.. You must deal with a lot of slow people every day that this is your normal way of proving your point.. Sad that at 46 you haven't even learned to communicate properly..

 
So... during Bush-I's campagin on Iraq, we told the Iraqi people to stand up and strike out against Saddam.. and they did.. then we walked away and left him in charge.. nice.. So not only did we not help them when we could have, we helped to screw them over...

 
Why do people link anti-Bush and anti-American together?

They are completely different concepts

I personally do not have any problems with americans. Besides their beleif that they are superior to everyone else, which in itself is evidence to the contrary.

Bush is a madman in this for his own gains. He does not care about the soldiers, all he wants is Saddam. Saddam WAS disarming, he had already destroyed more than half of his armory - according to US reports anyway - and Bush still wanted war.

This war is unjust, and no-one can reasonably argue against that.

AND LWW - I SEE YOU HAVE YET TO REPLY TO MY EARLIER POST.

 
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