Importance of having Components in the front and rear???

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

all I know is I have to be able to have a front stage that can get 50-20k flat at 110-120 dbs.

Looking for bleeding ears, eh? That kind of volume from the mids and highs is WAY too much. If you don't have hearing loss yet, you would after about 15-20 sec at that type of volume.

 

[myvanpounds 10+ year member]

Looking for bleeding ears, eh? That kind of volume from the mids and highs is WAY too much. If you don't have hearing loss yet, you would after about 15-20 sec at that type of volume.

lol, I play drums and guitar... I'm used to 110 dbs

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

At lower freqs maybe. Try listening to 110-120 dB in the 500-5k range. Without ear plugs you WILL have permanent damage to your hearing VERY quickly. Course you probably do already, but that's still no reason to ask for it to get worse.

BTW, you will probably have trouble getting that kind of output from a conventional set of car comps. You would need horns for that kind of output. Car Stereo review managed to get 120 out of a set of them in the mid 90's and were astounded by how much louder they were compared to everything else they have ever heard.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

At lower freqs maybe. Try listening to 110-120 dB in the 500-5k range. Without ear plugs you WILL have permanent damage to your hearing VERY quickly. Course you probably do already, but that's still no reason to ask for it to get worse.

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120db of midrange is completely different than 120db of bass/midbass. 120db of midrange will permanently damage your hearing in a very short period of time.

BTW, you will probably have trouble getting that kind of output from a conventional set of car comps. You would need horns for that kind of output. Car Stereo review managed to get 120 out of a set of them in the mid 90's and were astounded by how much louder they were compared to everything else they have ever heard.

One of the mags measured my old Illusion Audio CH1 horns at 119db //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[myvanpounds 10+ year member]

At lower freqs maybe. Try listening to 110-120 dB in the 500-5k range. Without ear plugs you WILL have permanent damage to your hearing VERY quickly. Course you probably do already, but that's still no reason to ask for it to get worse.
BTW, you will probably have trouble getting that kind of output from a conventional set of car comps. You would need horns for that kind of output. Car Stereo review managed to get 120 out of a set of them in the mid 90's and were astounded by how much louder they were compared to everything else they have ever heard.

take 4 12" 100db 1w/1m speakers and pair it up with a 100w tube head. now stick that about three feet in front of you. trust me I know that 120Db's used to sound like in the 500-5000k range. this is why I need at leats 110 from my front stage

 

[psych0ticnemes1 5,000+ posts]

When you go to a concert where does the sound come from -- The Front. Rear speakers just ruin your sound stage. Just get a good pair of components for the front, give it decent power and you will be set. Search for Rainbow's

uh... surround sound? i enjoy my rearfil ty very much... you may like hearing notes from one direction, but i enjoy feeling 'in the middle' of my music...

 

[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

uh... surround sound? i enjoy my rearfil ty very much... you may like hearing notes from one direction, but i enjoy feeling 'in the middle' of my music...

But surround sound is for Movies, not music. I think this question is directed towards daily driving music.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

uh... surround sound? i enjoy my rearfil ty very much... you may like hearing notes from one direction, but i enjoy feeling 'in the middle' of my music...

Except that the music you're listening to was not recorded in surround sound, it was recorded in stereo.

If you enjoy feeling in the middle of your music, do you hop onto the stage when you're at a concert?

Also, a properly setup stereo with only front speakers should still be able to produce the "large room" affect, such as large concert halls where you "hear" some of the sound reflecting from behind you. This shouldn't be absent in a properly setup 2-channel system.

 

[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

Except that the music you're listening to was not recorded in surround sound, it was recorded in stereo.

I beat you too it focker. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

I beat you too it focker. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

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[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

No more squeakinators for j00 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/mad.gif.c18f003ab0ef8a0d9c27ca78d77a6392.gif

I take it back, you win !

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[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

I take it back, you win !
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That's right.

You my bisch.

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[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

That's right.
You my bisch.

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[yacob.naif 10+ year member]

i have rear components, but they're just alpine type-r's, and i personally hate the way they sound, because when i'm driving, the rear tweeter is closer to my ear than the front tweeter, so i fade 80-100% to the front unless someone is sitting in the back, which is never, because i spend all my spare time trying to get my system to godly perfection, and friends just slow me down //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

j/k i have SOME friends... they just only call ME when they need a favor....

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

My rear passengers arent picky at all, so no need for fill...

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Sweet!! How come my momma always faced me to the front in my car seat? Those kids are way too cute not to look at them. Must be a safety thing.

To the original poster, I used to think my Infinity Kappas in the rear deck were kick ***...hell I even faded them to the rear off the HU //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/redface.gif.62fdbfe1a101588a808c4cff71bcb942.gif Only time and experience will tell you what's right for you. But take it from us, don't spend an appreciable amount of coin on rear speakers unless you REALLY know what you are doing. I regularly get the sense that some imaging cues are coming from behind me if they are in the recording...and I'm rear fill free and proud of it.