IMHO GOD > Evolution

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

but you don't know its there!
why is this simple concept so hard for you to understand?

i'll repeat myself... (this is a breakdown of pascal's wager)

there are only 6 possibillies!!!!

1. you believe in god and you were right... good outcome

2. you believe in god and you were wrong, you lived your life a better person and in the end lose nothing

3. you don't believe in god and you were right. you lose nothing

4. you don't believe in god and you were wrong. BAAAAD outcome

5. you don't choose.. and there is a god... BAAAAD outcome

6. you don't choose and there isn't a god... you lose nothing

so it's just plain stoopid not to believe, when believing is a win-win situation

YOU KEEP FORGETTING WHAT IF THE GOD YOUR DIGGIN ON ISN'T THE ONE TRUE GOD....THEN YOUR POKED FOR WORSHIPPING A FALSE GOD......

So just believing isn't a get outta hell free card

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

if there are no negative consequences involved in god's nonexistence why should anyone even remotely believe in god...... too much work for too little of a return..... bad economics in my eyes.....

?????? i see extremely bad reasoning there. yes if a god doesn't exist you lose nothing, but if a god does exist, you lose everything...

so believing in god your odds of a negative outcome are 0

not believeing in god your odds of a negative outcome are 1 out of 2

not choosing... and you have no chance, your odds of negative are 2 out of 2

so i believe in a god completly (not because of pascal's wager)

but i'm allways searching for the truth about him, which is all i have in my ability to do i can't know anything else for certain

 

[DejaWiz 5,000+ posts]

1. but you don't know its there!

2. why is this simple concept so hard for you to understand?

3. so it's just plain stoopid not to believe, when believing is a win-win situation

1. Yes I do know it's not there. See #2 below.

2. It's very easy to understand. No proof = not true.

3. This is simply your opinion. And in my opinion (which I hold in much higher regard than yours), it's a win-win only if you're easily manipulated by falsities and afraid of failure.

 

[RedlineAccord 10+ year member]

YOU KEEP FORGETTING WHAT IF THE GOD YOUR DIGGIN ON ISN'T THE ONE TRUE GOD....THEN YOUR POKED FOR WORSHIPPING A FALSE GOD......
So just believing isn't a get outta hell free card

Lolz thats post #666

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

YOU KEEP FORGETTING WHAT IF THE GOD YOUR DIGGIN ON ISN'T THE ONE TRUE GOD....THEN YOUR POKED FOR WORSHIPPING A FALSE GOD......
So just believing isn't a get outta hell free card

the way i see it i know there is only one god, and he is the being that created the universe and knows everything, if i refuse to believe everything man tells me about him and search for an absolute truth i am doing whats best in my ability, i can do no better, if i go to hell then i could do nothing about it

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

Lolz thats post #666

How in the shit did I know I was going to get that post //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[DejaWiz 5,000+ posts]

the way i see it i know there is only one god, and he is the being that created the universe and knows everything, if i refuse to believe everything man tells me about him and search for an absolute truth i am doing whats best in my ability, i can do no better, if i go to hell then i could do nothing about it

So if you believe there is a possibility that you could go to hell anyway, then why go through all the trouble in the first place if there's no guarantee?

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

So if you believe there is a possibility that you could go to hell anyway, then why go through all the trouble in the first place if there's no guarantee?

Because to quote him:

so believing in god your odds of a negative outcome are 0

 

[DejaWiz 5,000+ posts]

Because to quote him:

Yep. Thus more self contradictions.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

2. It's very easy to understand. No proof = not true.

oh really? prove to me that you see the color blue the same as i do, and i don't see it as you see green...

prove to me that evolution is a valid concept and then prove god isn't...

prove to me that the chair you are sitting in won't break any minute...

you don't know any of these for certain, but you believe them

 

[staypuff 10+ year member]

?????? i see extremely bad reasoning there. yes if a god doesn't exist you lose nothing, but if a god does exist, you lose everything...
so believing in god your odds of a negative outcome are 0

not believeing in god your odds of a negative outcome are 1 out of 2

not choosing... and you have no chance, your odds of negative are 2 out of 2

so i believe in a god completly (not because of pascal's wager)

but i'm allways searching for the truth about him, which is all i have in my ability to do i can't know anything else for certain

Actually you are the only one with bad reasoning here..... people have asked you before but you still have not answered because you don't have the answer... why is my not believing in god a negative.... god doesn't exist so i can use your reasoning and state to you that believing in god is negative..... how is not choosing 2 negatives..... lol you are blowing shit out here and you can't even see how silly it's sounding..... so once again...

1. god doesn't exist so i cannot recieve a negative..

2. since god doesn't exist you recieve a negative.....

3. most forums would call you a troll but since you are really amusing it would be a travesty to not have you around to laugh at....

4. since most of what you've put forth is so full of shit i can only deduce you are ****ing around and are simply stirring the pot so to speak....

i think religion is great in that it gives many of us reasons to laugh and watch the puppets of the world getting their strings pulled by wealthy, hooker loving, child touching preachers that believe in god about as much as the world believes Britney Spears is a great mom....

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

So if you believe there is a possibility that you could go to hell anyway, then why go through all the trouble in the first place if there's no guarantee?

because there is a guarantee that if i don't try, i WILL have a negative outcome or at least no outcome

 

[elementxero 10+ year member]

That is the poorest logic I have ever heard used to justify religious beliefs.

That basically boils down to "Hey man why not take a ****in shot in the dark with one of hundreds of religions 'cuz who knows? They might be right!" WHAT?!

How about this:

If god is such an AS SHOLE, that he would condemn me to an eternity of fire for simply using my god-given(lol) ability to reason that the understanding of divinity, either in its presence or absence, is outside the realm of human experience, and tainted by a myriad of MANMADE ideas, then I don't want to live in that *******'s heaven!

It's probably a sausage party up there.

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

prove to me we aren't some aliens experiment like a bunch of caged animals...and if we are do those aliens have a god or did they evolve, or do they argue about it too.....

and in terms of belief is this any further of a far fetched idea just because our parents, and their parent's parents, and society didn't force it upon us as a belief?

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

How about this:

If god is such an AS SHOLE, that he would condemn me to an eternity of fire for simply using my god-given(lol) ability to reason that the understanding of divinity, either in its presence or absence, is outside the realm of human experience, and tainted by a myriad of MANMADE ideas, then I don't want to live in that *******'s heaven!

makes sense