IMHO GOD > Evolution

[kurtdirt1 10+ year member]

That was a question, not a statement. I knew you would say that too, and how do you know that it is the infallible word of god? Do you know what the actual process was to put the book s of the bible together?

yes i actually do...they set a criteria that each book would have to meet in order to make it into the "bible"

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

Actually I grew up far from church/religion. I was all doped up as a kid in a skrewed up household...was looking at time in CYA and God started to work on me while I was in lockdown, started to read and pray and God sent people to lead me and guide me. Here I am 2 years later holding strong and going higher in Him. Have got off probation, drugs, riotous living, graduated hs, and am now in college. before I knew who God was i hated God or anything to do with holiness...I don't just believe in anything, truly God has shown His power in my life and has delivered me...Don't no one know like I know what God has done for me...

Maybe you were just struck by lightning. You know, science can explain that these days. No need for religion there.

 

[BJ The Man 10+ year member]

They also left certain books out. Did you know that? Have you read the books or know what they are?

 

[BJ The Man 10+ year member]

Maybe you were just struck by lightning. You know, science can explain that these days. No need for religion there.

lol:veryhapp:

 

[kurtdirt1 10+ year member]

They also left certain books out. Did you know that? Have you read the books or know what they are?

yes i know that they left out quite a few books..I do know a few of them but I have not read them all

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

He's still avoiding all my questions...

 

[kurtdirt1 10+ year member]

He's still avoiding all my questions...

About how I know that Jesus is right? He's proven Himself in my life/to me...no need to further explain

 

[BJ The Man 10+ year member]

^yeah

They left a good deal of those books out because they didnt follow the same idea as the rest of the books that were in the bible. The bible was formed by man. Back in the day there were all sorts of writers who wrote these "biblical" books. Some were lost over time, however, my point is that the whole idea of bible writers being divinely motivated and wrote god's exact word cannot be true because how would be pick out which books were divinely written and which were not?

sorry if its hard to get its just not easy to clearly explain.

 

[kurtdirt1 10+ year member]

^yeah
They left a good deal of those books out because they didnt follow the same idea as the rest of the books that were in the bible. The bible was formed by man. Back in the day there were all sorts of writers who wrote these "biblical" books. Some were lost over time, however, my point is that the whole idea of bible writers being divinely motivated and wrote god's exact word cannot be true because how would be pick out which books were divinely written and which were not?

sorry if its hard to get its just not easy to clearly explain.

No I understand what you are saying. I'm not exactly sure how the books were chosen, I can do a little research to find out. And I do believe that there are other divinely inspired writings out there that are not in the Bible. The "bible" like the collection of books was put together by man yes.

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

About how I know that Jesus is right? He's proven Himself in my life/to me...no need to further explain

That still doesn't mean that the Bible is 100% inspired by god. As far as you know, it could be inspired by power hungry kings and religious figures in order to collect revenue and a firm following of people. Not that any of this has actually taken place in history or anything...

 

[BJ The Man 10+ year member]

since it was put there by man than how was it all certainly gods word?

 

[kurtdirt1 10+ year member]

since it was put there by man than how was it all certainly gods word?

Here's another thing to keep in mind, not just one person collectively put the books of the bible together....It was a large number of people from different churches/backgrounds......there was a number of criteria that each book/writing would have to meet.

Okay but to your question about it being certainly God's word. I am certain that what I read is God's word. It is not written to bring Glory to none but God, it is written to bring one out of sin into holiness...from darkness into light....Get in contact with Jesus and you'll know that He is Lord and that His word is unchanging and everlasting

 

[BJ The Man 10+ year member]

his word changes and loosens with society. suddenly we can do this and that when back in the day that wasn't ok.

 

[kurtdirt1 10+ year member]

his word changes and loosens with society. suddenly we can do this and that when back in the day that wasn't ok.

The word doesn't change, people water it down to make it easier for society to swallow. Go to an old fashioned church which preaches the word hard and you'll still find holiness and modesty. Dedication and unfailing men and women living wholy* for Jesus

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

It's obvious that religion is just an escape for when life becomes too tough for certain people. That's why it'll probably be around as long as human kind is despite how much proof and evidence is pooled against it.

Keeping in mind, I'm agnostic and believe in some sort of special creation, but I'm not asinine enough to really think that a bunch of people magically came up with the correct religion over 2 thousand years ago.

With that being said, I'm done here.