As far as pre outs are concerned: YES they pretty much are. Thats not to say that makes them a weak deck. It just means that if you are using older amps you have a much bigger chance of having noise issues. Where as with a high voltage deck you wouldn't have that problem since you'd be able to keep the gains down on the amps.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gifdont the alpine preouts have a habit of being pretty weak?