How would you inprove my sound system?

[RandyShaw 10+ year member]

Beside dissin on my HU. What your opinion on making my sound system a little better?

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[KidThump 10+ year member]

Different subs...............Cvrs are good but i would go with L7 or CVX 15s

and more power

 

[KidThump 10+ year member]

Other than that i say u have a good setup

 

[ThatChevyGuy 5,000+ posts]

cd player, amp, subs.

 

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

get rid of everyting

 

[RandyShaw 10+ year member]

Thanks for the input. I was wonerin how i could install more car speakers. I dont have an idea on how i would wire that do you ?

 

[eggyhustles 10+ year member]

Thanks for the input. I was wonerin how i could install more car speakers. I dont have an idea on how i would wire that do you ?

more speakers where? i had a board made for my rear deck to fit 2 extra 6x9s..thats suttin u can do..or have em put in the rear doors..or make kick panels...alot of options..about wiring i dunno i had a shop do it

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

Do you like how it sounds? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

If you want to put in more speakers, asked pimpedout how to do that.

 

[RandyShaw 10+ year member]

get rid of everyting

I dont have a good idea as to what caliber of equipment you guys have. I dont have a cibic cerconia plates 18" sub cause i really never heard of one till this morning.

I am in the process of getting a college scholarship to hoop.so i will have extra money so keep tellin my how you would spend money improving my system.

 

[mikey7182 10+ year member]

You'll get better sound from selling all the speakers you have now and buying some loud, high quality mids and highs for your front, then you will continuing to buy cheap speakers and finding places to cram them. You'll start getting cancellation issues and poor imaging and probably hurt your system rather than help it. More doesn't always=better. So rather than spend $400 on 4 sets of mids and highs, spend $350 on one badass set and put them up front, and match them with a good amp. Also, you can't say not to diss on your HU when you rock a Dual. Dual=shit. Kinda hard for people to avoid suggesting you upgrade it when you ask about how to make yoru system sound better. I know you probably said that because you already know it needs to be upgraded, but if you want something to sound better, eventually you will want to upgrade to something that doesn't ****. It will typically sound only as good as your weakest link. You could go out and buy $10k Rainbows and Zapco amps but if you're rocking the Dual HU it will sound like *** (relatively). You need a good source for the signal to start out clean.

 

[budahbuddy803 10+ year member]

why get more speakers? why not upgrade the front stage ? maybe put them on an amp that is how you get the vocals and mid bass and highs to become louder

if you want louder bass upgrade the subs and amp

if you want better SQ try to get a new deck and mess around with the imaging

if i were you i would put in some comps/amp probably buy a pioneer deck and then buy 2 12" IDQ's

 

[MBrock4u 10+ year member]

I won' t diss on your head unit, but thats where I would start. A good head unit will make everything sound better, then you can work off of that. I really does make a difference. It is your command central with everything stems off of.

 

[eggyhustles 10+ year member]

can someone explain cancellation issues

 

[XanderMoser 10+ year member]

can someone explain cancellation issues

If more than one source is producing a specific frequency, then they must be be perfectly in phase to prevent any cancellation. This is not realistically possible. But if the soundwaves are 180 degrees out of phase, then they will hypothetically cancel eachother out.

I don't know if you understand phase...but as far as speakers producing sound goes, they move in and out to produce a single cycle. Now, the frequency of the sound produced depends upon how many cycles per second (hertz) (how many times the speaker moves in, out, and back to center) the speaker creates. And the intensity of the soundwaves depends upon how far the speaker moved back and forth (excursion). Now if one speaker is moving in the exact opposite direction at the same time frame as the other speaker constantly, then they are said to be 180 degrees out of phase.

However, in a car you must realize that relative and absolute phase are completely different things. In a subwoofer box, you always want your subs to be in phase with eachother, especially if they share airspace. This prevents cancellation (which is much easier with lower frequencies due to the longer wavelength).

Now imagine yourself sitting in the seat of the car. All of your speakers are in phase with eachother (2 subs, 2 mids, 2 tweeters). Every single speakers is a different distance away from your ears. The time that it takes for the sound wave from each speaker to reach your ear can cause phase shifts. This is called relative phase differences. So putting one mid 180 degrees out of phase from the rest of the system can be beneficial. It has nothing to do with time alignment though, as the phase zone and time zone are two completely different places. By that, I mean changing the phase does not add delay to the speaker. The signal is produced at exactly the same time as the other mid, the speaker is just moving in instead of out and vice versa. I hope that made some sense...

In a car, it is difficult because of the different path lengths between the listener and each mid and tweeter. Time alignment attempts to compensate for this, but it is extremely difficult to get dialed in. And if it is done well, it often messes up with the tonality of the system. There are always sacrifices involved.

 

[eggyhustles 10+ year member]

If more than one source is producing a specific frequency, then they must be be perfectly in phase to prevent any cancellation. This is not realistically possible. But if the soundwaves are 180 degrees out of phase, then they will hypothetically cancel eachother out.
I don't know if you understand phase...but as far as speakers producing sound goes, they move in and out to produce a single cycle. Now, the frequency of the sound produced depends upon how many cycles per second (hertz) (how many times the speaker moves in, out, and back to center) the speaker creates. And the intensity of the soundwaves depends upon how far the speaker moved back and forth (excursion). Now if one speaker is moving in the exact opposite direction at the same time frame as the other speaker constantly, then they are said to be 180 degrees out of phase.

However, in a car you must realize that relative and absolute phase are completely different things. In a subwoofer box, you always want your subs to be in phase with eachother, especially if they share airspace. This prevents cancellation (which is much easier with lower frequencies due to the longer wavelength).

Now imagine yourself sitting in the seat of the car. All of your speakers are in phase with eachother (2 subs, 2 mids, 2 tweeters). Every single speakers is a different distance away from your ears. The time that it takes for the sound wave from each speaker to reach your ear can cause phase shifts. This is called relative phase differences. So putting one mid 180 degrees out of phase from the rest of the system can be beneficial. It has nothing to do with time alignment though, as the phase zone and time zone are two completely different places. By that, I mean changing the phase does not add delay to the speaker. The signal is produced at exactly the same time as the other mid, the speaker is just moving in instead of out and vice versa. I hope that made some sense...

In a car, it is difficult because of the different path lengths between the listener and each mid and tweeter. Time alignment attempts to compensate for this, but it is extremely difficult to get dialed in. And if it is done well, it often messes up with the tonality of the system. There are always sacrifices involved.

i fully understand now..thanks