How to Improve my setup? Mid bass?

[tdog333]

Right now my setup is :

Toyota Land Cruiser 1999 SUV

Rockford Fosgate PRIME R500-1 Amp

Pioneer DEH-4300UB

1 Alpine SWR-1243D 12" sub Wired to 2 Ohm 500W RMS

2x Kicker KS600 installed in front doors

2x Power Acoustik NB.2 tweeters(in the mail will be installed soon)

Factory rear door speakers (either 6 or 6.5" need a better measurement)

Factory very Back speakers (2 3-4 inch speakers, hits lower notes, they are weird.)

Everything sounds good, but I feel like im missing mid bass. It sounds good high, sounds good low, but when the music notes move from high to low there's something missing. I was thinking I could replace my 6" rear door speakers with mid bass woofer/speakers? I'm really not sure what to do any advice?

My front kicker 2 way speakers handle 50w RMS, tweeters will handle 50w RMS, so im thinking the rear door speaker replacement will need to be around 50-100 so I can replace the Factory Amp with a 4chan amp? Not really sure, any advice is good!

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[jrdnhsnbrg 10+ year member]

Sound deadening your doors should help a bit with midbass

 

[tdog333]

Okay i really need to do that, I'll get it done soon. Would you reccomend replacing the rear door 6" speakers with mid bass or something? then hook to a 4chan amp replacing the factory amp?

 

[jrdnhsnbrg 10+ year member]

Okay i really need to do that, I'll get it done soon. Would you reccomend replacing the rear door 6" speakers with mid bass or something? then hook to a 4chan amp replacing the factory amp?

They're probably 6.5" speakers, seeing as they don't make 6" speakers. I'd replace them if you have passengers that ride with you regularly in the back seat, if you don't have a spot for tweeters too get some coaxials. Definitely pull the factory amp and pick up an aftermarket amp.

 

[tdog333]

alright im thinking of getting some Rockford-Fosgate-Punch-P165's (they are pretty cheap so no big deal) and a new amp to replace the factory amp. I have some questions about installing a new amp though.

All the RCA's on my head unit are full, so i would have to use the pass through RCA's on the amp powering my subwoofer, will this work? Is there any sort of adapter kit I will need to replace the factory amp?

was thinking of this http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_43832_Precision-Power-PPI-BK340.4.html

 

[tdog333]

Okay actually

Couple quick questions:

1. I am going to remove the factory amp and replace it with a 4channel. Can i just unplug the factory amp and remove it, and just leave the harnesses/cables unplugged. Then wire the 4 channel up and each door speaker to it? Or is there something on the headunit I need to unplug once i remove the factory amp?

2. Do I need to run a separate power wire from the battery to the new 4channel amp, or can i just piggyback my 4gauge wire to my subwoofer amp? (the 4chan is only 250W rms total @4ohm, and the sub amp is 500W rms total @ 2ohm)

Thanks!

 

[Side Show 10+ year member]

1= pics of factory amp? is it using rca's for signal or speaker wire from the headunit?

2= you can get away with a distribution block, but it is better to run it's own, don't forget your fuses ect aswell.

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

a distro block for the power wires ,piggy back the remote wire .also what deck .if only 1 set of rca's the either used the pass thru and some splitters or an eg .also the cheap components prolly wont be much better than the stock speakers , and maybe even worse on the mid bass

 

[jrdnhsnbrg 10+ year member]

a distro block for the power wires ,piggy back the remote wire .also what deck .if only 1 set of rca's the either used the pass thru and some splitters or an eg .also the cheap components prolly wont be much better than the stock speakers , and maybe even worse on the mid bass

He may need a relay for the remote wires depending on the amperage that the head unit puts out

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

He may need a relay for the remote wires depending on the amperage that the head unit puts out

no usually unless the sub amp is 5000 rms or more

 

[tdog333]

Okay perfect thanks for all the info! If I wanted to move the amp to the back, and run completely new wires, I could just hook up speaker wire to each speaker, and run it to the 4 channel amp, run the RCA's from the amp to the head unit right? Or do i need to use the stock wires in any way?

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

Run new wires if you can

 

[Side Show 10+ year member]

i'd recommend using the stock wires to the speakers, as they are already run throughout the car... but connect them to the new amp and run your rca's and earth remote and pwr //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

here's a good thread to read http://www.caraudio.com/forums/speakers/579338-how-do-i-get-bass-out-my-door-speakers-2.html

You know how subwoofers can only perform well in an enclosure? Its the same thing with speakers when it comes to midbass.

However one can not deny the fact that some speakers are better suited to play midbass then others so speaker selection is pretty important too but treating the doors outweighs this.

 

[trumpet 5,000+ posts]

i'd recommend using the stock wires to the speakers, as they are already run throughout the car... but connect them to the new amp

I agree with this as the amount of power from the new amp is not enough to be concerned about exceeding the capacity of most factory speaker wires. I would run new speaker wire to the factory speaker harness, whether it's at the dash or at a factory amplifier.