Horn work log (big pics)

[Immacomputer 10+ year member]

Well I finally got started building DBB's horn for a single 6" driver. This thing is **** big and took up about 3/4 of a sheet of MDF.

A good friend of mine brought over his son and table saw to help out with the cuts. The table saw was awesome and I want one so bad. It made things so much easier and cut like butter. We burned a few pieces but they will be fine with a little bit of sanding.

Specs of the horn:

Throat area: ~150cm^2

Mouth area: ~1050cm^2

Horn Length: ~2m for a 40hz tune.

The rear chamber may be a little large for this driver so I'm going to play around with water bottles to see what sounds decent with it. I'm planning on not gluing down the top chamber and sealing it up with some weather stripping so I can remove it at will.

Pics:

Greg and his son Joey (these guys are awesome):

You see my ghetto jig saw skillz:

All the cut pieces:

Temporary layout in my room:

Top views:

The driver I'm using (cadence cwm6 mid; it should do fine):

That's all the pictures I have right now. I'll get more up when I start sanding and glueing **** down. All the cuts were made with regular edges except for the four corner blocks. I left the other two in Ocala; they were so small I didn't notice them; I hope they don't get thrown out. I'll be marking out on the bottom piece where everything is going to go and then sand down the edges accordingly. Greg also let me borrow his sander so that should not be too much work. I'm hoping to get it finished sometime this week but I also need to work on a bunch of other things.

Click to read more...

 

[saywhat? 5,000+ posts]

front port edge not getting angled?

looks good though, but willit be loud enough?

 

[Immacomputer 10+ year member]

If you're talking about the #4 piece, yes, it will be sanded down at an angle. If you're talking about the piece on the right, it will remain as is.

 

[ramos 5,000+ posts]

Looking good so far , should have transfered the angles to your pieces and cut them on the table saw //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Death By Bass 10+ year member]

will the woofer actually fit?

you might need to put it closer to the end wall in the enclosure...

 

[jj4475 10+ year member]

this is funny

 

[Death By Bass 10+ year member]

this is funny

whats funny?

 

[saywhat? 5,000+ posts]

you.

 

[Immacomputer 10+ year member]

Looking good so far , should have transfered the angles to your pieces and cut them on the table saw //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I was going to but the angles would be so small, I could sand them with ease. I didn't want to make the angle cuts and then realize that we either cut one the wrong direction or did the wrong angle on the wrong side and be 100 miles from the wood and saw to replace the piece.

I got busy last night so I wasn't able to draw everything out but that should only take 10 minutes or so. I'll work on it after class gets out around 10:30. I want to get the deflex pads in sometime today too..

will the woofer actually fit?
you might need to put it closer to the end wall in the enclosure...

Yep, it fits with about 1.5 cm behind one corner of the magnet. There is also a rubber boot on the magnet that I will be removing when I put it in so that should give me a little more clearance. Oh, and that's as far over as I could squeeze the driver and still be able to remove it.

 

[QtrHorse 10+ year member]

I have been seeing a lot of these horn posts. Please excuse my newbism but what actually is a horn and are they used for competition or just listening?

 

[Immacomputer 10+ year member]

They're usually used in home theatre and pro applications as they don't always work out well in vechicles, especially trunks (the enviroment they're placed in is very important, just like in car audio). Horn are also used in trumpets, tubas, and other "horn" instruments. Horn enclosures are one of many quarter wavelength designs that are very efficient and can get pretty loud.

For more information on quarter wave designs, go to http://www.quarter-wave.com

That site has a ton of information.

 

[QtrHorse 10+ year member]

Thank you very much. I may have to build one for my home then. Would it not do well w/ surround? Can I find box plans on that site to make one? How do you pick the speaker (I assume it needs to be a 6in midd)?

 

[ssj2xxgotenxx 10+ year member]

See if you can get ahold of a router and roundover bit. I just started using that technique on my boxes and it really increases the overall quality of the box. Great job so far, I'm really impressed with the direction your going in, it's unique.

 

[Immacomputer 10+ year member]

I have a router in Ocala but I don't have any roundover bits. I would love to do it though and will try it out but I have never done it before.

Thank you very much. I may have to build one for my home then. Would it not do well w/ surround? Can I find box plans on that site to make one? How do you pick the speaker (I assume it needs to be a 6in midd)?

They can be fine with surround sound. I don't think the site has any plans available. You can use any driver but not all will work great. It also doesn't need to be a 6.5" speaker unless you're talking just about this design. Usually a speaker with an Fs close to the tuning of the enclosure and a mid Q and relatively low Vas will work well.

 

[Death By Bass 10+ year member]

Usually a speaker with an Fs close to the tuning of the enclosure and a mid Q and relatively low Vas will work well.

...I think high vas works alot better...

low vas, such as the DD9510's I have, and you cant even design a horn with a theoretical flat frequency response...

 

[QtrHorse 10+ year member]

Someone design me or send me some plans to make one and what speaker it will need, plz. I need a box building project!

 

[Immacomputer 10+ year member]

...I think high vas works alot better...
low vas, such as the DD9510's I have, and you cant even design a horn with a theoretical flat frequency response...

Well not that stiff...

I have three panels together now and I'm going to lay out where everything else is going in pencil. I figured it would be better to get measurements with the sides glued on first. I'm about to put in the corner pieces as they are ready to just drop in. One panel got warped sitting in my room so I had to straighten it out with 3 screws... that ******. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

The other two panels went on OK but it is a bіtch with only two hands and no bench or workspace; just using the floor in my room ***** ass.

 

[Death By Bass 10+ year member]

Someone design me or send me some plans to make one and what speaker it will need, plz. I need a box building project!

what woofer do you have, what vehicle? or is it going in the house? and max enclosure dimensions?

 

[QtrHorse 10+ year member]

what woofer do you have, what vehicle? or is it going in the house? and max enclosure dimensions?

I would love to try one for my vehicle but I'm very limited on space (maybe 12inx12in x 30in). It would most likely be for my home. I don't have a woofer at the moment picked out but I do have some extra subs laying around (ED 11Ov, ED EU-700's, ED 9k's, 8in Assassins, 10in Aresenal and an 8w7).

 

[Immacomputer 10+ year member]

Here are some updated pictures of the build:

All holes are pre-drilled and counter-sunk and then covered with wood filler. I haven't sanded any of the spots yet as they're still drying. I couldn't find a ghetto rag to wipe the excess glue off with and paper towels weren't really working so I just used my fingers. A little ghetto but whatever. All the pieces have been going together alright but the top and bottom pieces are about 2mm too short.