Hey you evolutionists...

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

I'm saying that in a very general sense: evolution cannot answer any questions of what happened prior to the existence of matter.

so the basis of evolution has no basis as to how it got to the point where evolution is even possible. very interesting.... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 

[bose301s 5,000+ posts]

so the basis of evolution has no basis as to how it got to the point where evolution is even possible. very interesting.... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

Yes, because that is an entirely different topic which is studied by physicists and astronomers, it is not in the realm of biologists.

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

So if your job ever asked you to do something tht you KNEW would or could, in your own heart, disprove the existance of Jesus, what would you do? If you were presented with scientific evidence that the bible is a hoax, what would you 'believe'?
What religious tests from God are you referring to exactly? You labeling smoething as a 'test' does not make it the same as a scientific proving method. My girlfriend 'tests' me all the time too, does this make her a scientist or a pastor?

nothing can disprove Jesus to me so the first point is moot for me.

When I say test i mean anything that is tested like science with the scientific method. It may not be as formal, but the same rules apply. Something is stated and a test is run to give evidence supporting or disproving it. So if someone claims they are a follower of Christ, but show no relationship to Him, then the test would disprove their claim.

 

[BoomBoomBoy 10+ year member]

But yet everything is made out of matter so his response is true.

Well using your logic, a rock is matter but has nothing to do with evolution.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

Yes, because that is an entirely different topic which is studied by physicists and astronomers, it is not in the realm of biologists.

so isnt that like giving up? like "I can't prove it so i'm not gonna talk about it." Come on now, that's weak. If you want religions to see it all the way through, why can't you? lets play on an even playing field here.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

Yes, because that is an entirely different topic which is studied by physicists and astronomers, it is not in the realm of biologists.

I thought he said he was a biologist. Comical, regardless.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

So, I'm closed-minded for rejecting a theory? You reject Christianity, therefore you must be closed-minded, too. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif
I have considered the theory of evolution. I support certain aspects of it, but I reject it as a whole because there are too many fallacies. If these fallacies could be disproved, I would put more stock in it. Until then, I will continue to reject.

See, now you aren;t even trying. Looking like a troll again jman. Obviously I was referring to this part of your comment: "and I intend to keep it that way."
I, on the other hand, have made it clear Im open to hear any theory. I prive truth over being right. You? Have come here to prove us all wrong, and cling to your own belief, no matter what. Yours posts drip with insecurity.

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

Well using your logic a rock, is matter but has nothing to do with evolution.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

Yes using my logic a rock is made of matter. I also agree it has nothing to do with evolution. Keep digging. His response was still correct when taken in context with the conversation, not out of context like you keep attempting to do.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

thegreatestpenn: if you want to talk about the idea of a big bang singularity, you should have said that instead of pretending that's a question evolution should or could be addressing.

The appearance of matter is too complicated for anyone to understand, and god is not an answer to it.

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

I thought he said he was a biologist. Comical, regardless.

don't quit, see it all the way through. this is just getting interesting!!!

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

thegreatestpenn:The appearance of matter is too complicated for anyone to understand, and god is not an answer to it.

really? why is it too complicated? science can prove anything!!!! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif come on give it a try. without it then why should I believe in evolution?

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

so the basis of evolution has no basis as to how it got to the point where evolution is even possible. very interesting.... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

the theory we are talking about here, evolution, has nothing to do with atoms or the beginning of matter. The theory of evolution also states it happens over long periods of time, does this mean the theory of evolution must also include how time works?

 

[bose301s 5,000+ posts]

so isnt that like giving up? like "I can't prove it so i'm not gonna talk about it." Come on now, that's weak. If you want religions to see it all the way through, why can't you? lets play on an even playing field here.

No, it is not at all giving up. It is delegating the work and research in a specific field to those qualified to do so. While a physicist may know the origins of the universe and may be way smarter than an MD, I would never let the physicist treat me medically. Again, it's not that biologists are giving up, they are working on what they know and leave what is out of their realm to those that do know it.

 

[97gp 5,000+ posts]

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

really? why is it too complicated? science can prove anything!!!! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif come on give it a try. without it then why should I believe in evolution?

Not everything can be as simple to explain as that big guy in the sky saying "let there be light" //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Evolution and the initial creation of the universe is not the same nor do they belong in the same debate.