Hey you evolutionists...

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

really? why is it too complicated? science can prove anything!!!! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif come on give it a try. without it then why should I believe in evolution?

Stop trolling.

I know you're smart enough to understand that the origin of matter has nothing to do with the evolutionary process.

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

Not everything can be as simple to explain as that big guy in the sky saying "let there be light" //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
Evolution and the initial creation of the universe is not the same nor do they belong in the same debate.

well if everything in religion is open for debate why can't eveything with evolution and where evolution's beginning comes from be open from debate? that's not a fair playing field. don't be a hypocrite, see it through!!!!

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

really? why is it too complicated? science can prove anything!!!! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif come on give it a try. without it then why should I believe in evolution?

Are you dense?

Evolution is completely separate from how matter appeared. For all I know, a god could have created matter and then everything evolved after that with no outside interference (ie. the Deist god as was popular during the Enlightenment). As unlikely as that is, it doesn't in any way disprove evolution.

Science can't answer everything right now; it is religion that pretends it can. We are always working to improve theories and ideas of how the world works.

It is amazing how you require so much evidence and proof for science, and yet so little for religion. The good thing is that science does, for the most part, have the evidence to back itself up, whereas religion has nothing but books written by men.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

No, it is not at all giving up. It is delegating the work and research in a specific field to those qualified to do so. While a physicist may know the origins of the universe and may be way smarter than an MD, I would never let the physicist treat me medically. Again, it's not that biologists are giving up, they are working on what they know and leave what is out of their realm to those that do know it.

It's funny to see the anti-evolutionists reaching as far as they can to try and grab some sort of argument, isn't it?

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

See, now you aren;t even trying. Looking like a troll again jman. Obviously I was referring to this part of your comment: "and I intend to keep it that way."
I, on the other hand, have made it clear Im open to hear any theory. I prive truth over being right. You? Have come here to prove us all wrong, and cling to your own belief, no matter what. Yours posts drip with insecurity.

I don't understand the point of your assertion. This discussion isn't "What does Jordan believe?" This discussion is, "Is the theory of evolution a plausible explanation for the beginnings of life and it's continued development?"

I'm not going to go asserting my beliefs in this conversation because they have no place in it. It's like arguing with your wife about finances and her bringing up you not putting the toilet seat down.

However, if you really must know how I feel, I do not put my complete trust in any specific theory on the creation of life, because there is no way to tell for sure. There are lots of theories, each with their own convincing cases, and most have some factual evidence to back them up. It's impossible to say that any of them are completely correct.

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

Stop trolling.
I know you're smart enough to understand that the origin of matter has nothing to do with the evolutionary process.

but everything in evolution comes from matter so then the question is where does matter come from. See it through, don't start/stop when you please. if you don't know just say I DON'T KNOW I JUST HAVE TO BELIEVE IT WITHOUT KNOWING. kinda like religion....

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

well if everything in religion is open for debate why can't eveything with evolution and where evolution's beginning comes from be open from debate? that's not a fair playing field. don't be a hypocrite, see it through!!!!

Again, the origin of matter has nothing to do with the evolutionary process.

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

well if everything in religion is open for debate why can't eveything with evolution and where evolution's beginning comes from be open from debate? that's not a fair playing field. don't be a hypocrite, see it through!!!!

You cant troll me. Just a heads up. Religion includes creation...evolution does not. Make a new thread if you want to talk about views of creation...otherwise Ill just delete your off topic trolls from here on out.

 

[BassAddictJ 5,000+ posts]

How do you say the world was made?How does evolution happen?

Why is it taught?

Is there proof?

Ain't it stupid?

Spill it out...

gravity drew large chunks of dust and rock together to form earth as this material was already orbiting the sun.

evolution happens as genetic defects act in favor of survival, the surviving reproduce and these traits "evolve" over the entire population over a long course of time

it's taught because it makes alot more sense than most of the shit taught in pretty much any religion. could the big bang theory be synonymous with god "creating" eden.....no no no thats just too crazy. scientific reason gives people reason to not believe in god and thus not donate to thier respected religious establishments.

there's no proof for either side.....but evolution makes ALOOOOT more sense than most religions. especially when certain aspects of how it works are proven by science. whens the last time you heard anything spectacular in religion become proven and accepted in the scientific community?

IMO religion on a large scale is terrible. Historically speaking religion has been the excuse to wage catastrophic wars and sometime straight genocide. Religion a healthy thing for the body and mind if used properly. unfortunately in the world we live in religion has been and will be capitalized and abused for the sake of generating money for the establishment and alienating individuals and groups with heterogeneous beliefs.

all religions should accept and tolerate the fact that the world is different and people should be allowed to worship who and what they want without the beliefs of other encroached upon them. But i wont hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

is Christianity is so perfect, explain the crusades......

 

[galacticmonkey 5,000+ posts]

Religion was created when we didnt understand fire, lightning, rain, birth, death, etc. Nobody knew what caused it or how it worked, so it had to be a higher power than ourselves.

LAWLZ at anybody who believes religion.

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

Are you dense?
Evolution is completely separate from how matter appeared. For all I know, a god could have created matter and then everything evolved after that with no outside interference (ie. the Deist god as was popular during the Enlightenment). As unlikely as that is, it doesn't in any way disprove evolution.

Science can't answer everything right now; it is religion that pretends it can. We are always working to improve theories and ideas of how the world works.

It is amazing how you require so much evidence and proof for science, and yet so little for religion. The good thing is that science does, for the most part, have the evidence to back itself up, whereas religion has nothing but books written by men.

Christianity never tries to answer everything, what Christianity says is you will NEVER be able to answer all of life's questions so don't even try. Believe in God first, then worry about what He wants. That is what christianity says. but I wouldn't expect u to know that since ur not a christian. wow how can I know more on both subjects than you? this isn't a fair fight

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

nothing can disprove Jesus to me so the first point is moot for me.
When I say test i mean anything that is tested like science with the scientific method. It may not be as formal, but the same rules apply. Something is stated and a test is run to give evidence supporting or disproving it. So if someone claims they are a follower of Christ, but show no relationship to Him, then the test would disprove their claim.

"nothing can disprove Jesus to me"

You are not a scientist then. And if 'nothing' can disprove what you take on nothing more than faith, you have no reason entering into a discussion based upon finding truth.

And again, just because you use the word 'test' for both situations does not make them the same. Science does not tell you how the world works and asks that you accept it on faith, s religion does. Science demands you go out and discover how the world works yourself.

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

You cant troll me. Just a heads up. Religion includes creation...evolution does not. Make a new thread if you want to talk about views of creation...otherwise Ill just delete your off topic trolls from here on out.

oh so you gonna ban/delete me just cause you're losing the argument, that's weak. sign of a poor sport. see it all the way through or you my friend are the hypocrite

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

but everything in evolution comes from matter so then the question is where does matter come from. See it through, don't start/stop when you please. if you don't know just say I DON'T KNOW I JUST HAVE TO BELIEVE IT WITHOUT KNOWING. kinda like religion....

I can admit that I, and science, don't have an answer for the beginning of time/matter...no one does; not even you.

I do, however, realize that the origin of the univese being a result of the big bang, or god, has no affect whatsoever on the issues of evolution.

 

[BoomBoomBoy 10+ year member]

Yes using my logic a rock is made of matter. I also agree it has nothing to do with evolution. Keep digging. His response was still correct when taken in context with the conversation, not out of context like you keep attempting to do.

You're just plain trying to be argumentative w/o any basis. Even a grammar school student knows evolution has to do with life, not matter.

While matter is a building block of life (specifically carbon), Evolutionists don't classify matter while discussing evolution. They discuss species. In otherwords, life. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

I am onto your trolling ways sir.