Hey you evolutionists...

[perfecxionX 10+ year member]

How do you say the world was made?How does evolution happen?

Why is it taught?

Is there proof?

Ain't it stupid?

Spill it out...

These are actually all answers that are very accessible and thoroughly supported by 100+ years of scientific progress.

How do you say the world was made?

http://biology.clc.uc.edu/Courses/bio303/bigbang.htm

http://zebu.uoregon.edu/internet/l2.html

Is there proof?

Macroevolution has been supported by:- fossil records / transitional forms in the fossil records

- chronological nature of the fossil records / change in the distribution and frequency of types of organisms through geological time

- comparative embryology shows similar developmental stages for closely related organisms (e.g., all vertebrates)

- vestigial structures; have a function in other organisms/ancestors by the function is no longer necessary, yet the structure stays

- homologous structures - same bone structure found in the forearm of many vertebrates (just vary in size relationships of the bones)

- DNA of more closely related organisms are much more similar than less closely related organisms (from sibs, out to distance relatives out to members of a species, members of the genus, etc....)

- biogeography: organisms that are found in the same area are more similar to each other than to other individuals from distant places (all the marsupials on Australia!)

Direct evidence of evolution:

- bacterial resistance -- bacterial populations change in face of selection by antibiotics

- pests -- lots of evidence for pesitcides selecting for resistant individuals within a population and the pesticide becomes less and less affected over generations (the generation of the pests, not us).

- classic example on Darwin's finches showing microevolution of bill size change in response to drought (and back again) - across generations, not individuals (bill size is heritable)

- evo-devo: this is an area in science that is showing DRAMATICALLY that some changes during development can lead to dramatically different outcomes. For example, a small difference in the gene controlling foot development in birds: results in birds with webbed feet or birds with no web.

If you are unfamiliar with all of this then maybe you should start reading. Or at least not take opinions on things you know nothing about.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Evolution just don't make sense,They say how things started as mud or goo (Whatever it was) then evolved and got better and better and better... look at effin nature. Its called the law of thermal dynamics. Entropy: When its left alone and not taken care of it falls apart...aka gets worse not better.

So Jesus went and buried all those fossils of extinct animals under the ocean for us to dig up 2000 years later? Just to test our faith, right? Dinosaurs never really eisted, some omniscient deity created the bones and placed them in the dirt, right?

o an evolutionists, answer me this. if evolution "was" true, why did it stop??? evolution is a constant development. but nothing has changed in the past 2k years. if we evolved from primates, why did we stop? if everything was made from evolving, why has it stopped?? you cant answer with a logical explanation bc there is none. evolution is a farce. an yall laugh an call christians stupid. look in the **** mirror.

This is the intelligence arguing for religion... someone who thinks evolution has stopped. Maybe in your family. lol //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

The process of people losing wisdom teeth and smaller big toes isnt evolution, its adaptation. Darwin proved this in the Galapagos with his birds in a short period of time, but its not true evolution.
As human technology advanced we no longer needed to grind on hard meats or other foods, so the wisdom teeth no longer were needed. Its just adaptation to our environment. The DNA for wisdom teeth is still present, the body just did not make them.

Besides, if evolution argues humans will get better, my mom didn't have wisdom teeth, and shes definitely not smarter, more athletic, or "advanced" then anyone I know //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif (Sorry mom, I love you!)

Science can't prove much, a lot of our lives are built on assumptions. Science can't prove Creation science, or the process of evolution. Theres just no way. I look at the evidence of how young our earth is, and how rapidly it is decaying (physically and morally) and the shear complexity of it, and I just cannot come to the realization that we evolved.

(BTW, Dinos were in the Bible, the Bible does hint to a Heliocentric solar system, and never does it describe a flat world. It says "the circle of the earth" and many other references to a round earth.)

How, exactly, do you differentiate 'evolving' and 'adapting' over a generational scale as you suggest?

You say science cant prove much, is that some sort of joke? So when comparing science and religion, its science that cant prove much? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif Religion is based upon faith, science is based upon exhaustive testing. You say our lives are built upon assumptions. I guess we assume that airplane will fly when we climb aboard it to take our vacation? Or maybe we should just pray God lifts it off the ground for us?

The amount of ignornce to evolution here is astounding. Dont they teach you guys anything in science class anymore? I had to study this crap for like 8 years straight, yet some of you dont seem to know much more about evolution than what you read in a comic book. Evolution has stopped.... my fucking god.... maybe insects really should inherit the Earth, many of us are simply too stupid to appreciate life.

 

[DidUHearThat? 10+ year member]

I have proof evolution doesn't work.

I fawked your mom. Your dumb *** was born. De-evolution occurred.

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[DonH 5,000+ posts]

this thread seems an awful lot like drama's. hmmmm

 

[DonH 5,000+ posts]

I have proof evolution doesn't work.
I fawked your mom. Your dumb *** was born. De-evolution occurred.

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[newusername 10+ year member]

Someone posted that there is evidence that the earth is very young.

What do you consider young, and to what evidence are you referring?

Now someone has mentioned entropy. Perhaps you believe that over time things become increasingly disordered. Now how you think that relates to god is unclear to me. I would think that such a system would be the result of a simple beginning that grows increasingly complex, rather than a complex beginning creating something more simple. These ideas, though, are fairly irrelevant.

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

Adaptation is one thing. Getting taller, lack of wisdom teeth, smaller pinky toes etc. are obvious signs of adaptation. That happens, no denying that. We still maintain our human characteristics.

Evolution would be if humans started sprouting wings or gills. The truth of the matter is, you can mutate the hell out of people and they're never going to grow feathers or fins. And that's how all species supposedly differentiated, via mutation. Well, a vast, vast majority of mutations are harmful, and the ones negatively affected die off. Evolution is a destructive process, and there's little to no chance that all the wonderful and complex creatures you see today could be created through destruction.

 

[DidUHearThat? 10+ year member]

 

[Kastlez_ 10+ year member]

THIS!!!!!!!!

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[perfecxionX 10+ year member]

Evolution would be if humans started sprouting wings or gills.

no

The truth of the matter is, you can mutate the hell out of people and they're never going to grow feathers or fins. And that's how all species supposedly differentiated, via mutation.

no

Well, a vast, vast majority of mutations are harmful, and the ones negatively affected die off. Evolution is a destructive process, and there's little to no chance that all the wonderful and complex creatures you see today could be created through destruction.

no

maybe you should attempt to achieve an elementary understanding of evolution before you try to figure out what is wrong with it.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

Adaptation is one thing. Getting taller, lack of wisdom teeth, smaller pinky toes etc. are obvious signs of adaptation. That happens, no denying that. We still maintain our human characteristics.
Evolution would be if humans started sprouting wings or gills. The truth of the matter is, you can mutate the hell out of people and they're never going to grow feathers or fins. And that's how all species supposedly differentiated, via mutation. Well, a vast, vast majority of mutations are harmful, and the ones negatively affected die off. Evolution is a destructive process, and there's little to no chance that all the wonderful and complex creatures you see today could be created through destruction.

Yup, you're a real scientist. You've obviously taken your studies seriously. I don't care for Jay Gould and his NOMA bs, but he would have a field day with your junk intelligence.

 

[KyleBechtold 5,000+ posts]

I will say this.. Science atleast tries to figure shit out.. tries to disprove or back up things.. Religion is set.. they don't want to hear anything to do with change.. As for all those saying evolution has stopped etc etc.. Have we not advanced..? Human size increase is already visible from ancient times.. look at the old doorways etc and see how they were much smaller... evolution isn't drastic changes in short time periods.. its small things.. slowly.. You and I are stuck as we are.. we won't see evolution changes to ourselves.. average height increase about every year.. until people have been around for a lot longer than they have evolution changes won't be noticeable... but everyone will be dead by then.. Why do religious folks get so **** crazy when others try to talk logically.. bapists aren't even supposed to question their religion... thats just some ignorant ****ing shit right there

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

These are actually all answers that are very accessible and thoroughly supported by 100+ years of scientific progress.

http://biology.clc.uc.edu/Courses/bio303/bigbang.htm

http://zebu.uoregon.edu/internet/l2.html

REligions feed off ignorance. Anything we dont understand... is God. Look how many things were considered divine work until science proved otherwise, so the church simply revised their beliefs to no longer include these things.
Darwinism:

"A not untypical response, from the wife of the Bishop of Worcester, "Descended from the apes! My dear, let us hope that it is not true, but if it is, let us pray that it will not become generally known.""

The church originlly condemned Darwin's theories at best, and at worst tried to keep them from being well known. It wasn't until 1950 tht the Pope said Christinity had no opposition Darwinism, and not until 2006 that it stated it accepted evolution as "the theory of evolution provides a fruitful and unifying scientific explanation for the emergence of life on earth, that many theological interpretations of origins can readily embrace an evolutionary outlook, and that an acceptance of evolution is entirely compatible with an authentic and living Christian faith.". Basically the church STILL ignoring that evolution completely opposes Christian belief in the beginning and subsequent life of it.

"The Church of England is considering the possibility of apologising posthumously to Darwin, for its earlier condemnation of his theory."

So basically Darwin was right, it took the church generations to admit it, and even upon admitting it they still say their religios beliefs are correct and do not oppose the theory of evolution.

Glileo, you know, the guy who said the earth was not the center of the universe, but tht the sun was, and we revolve around it... any of you religious zelouts remember how religion treated him? He was forced to recant his theories and live under house arrest the final several years of his life. Why? For daring to oppose the Catholic chruch's fundamentl beliefs... so what if he was right.

Shall I list more ways in which religion has 'evolved' to fit itself into the modern world where we are not nearly so ignorant as we use to be? Faith, why should we have it when we see so many things that previous generations were told to take on faith alone, and were wrong. Why should we have it when we've seen the religions of the world change their story every time science proves they are full of shit?

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

Alrighty, then. All y'all say is "no" and "you're an idiot"

Very fitting stupid responses to my stupid inquiry.

 

[KyleBechtold 5,000+ posts]

Adaptation is one thing. Getting taller, lack of wisdom teeth, smaller pinky toes etc. are obvious signs of adaptation. That happens, no denying that. We still maintain our human characteristics.
Evolution would be if humans started sprouting wings or gills. The truth of the matter is, you can mutate the hell out of people and they're never going to grow feathers or fins. And that's how all species supposedly differentiated, via mutation. Well, a vast, vast majority of mutations are harmful, and the ones negatively affected die off. Evolution is a destructive process, and there's little to no chance that all the wonderful and complex creatures you see today could be created through destruction.

people have no need for gills or wings.. evolution and adaptation go hand in hand..