hey republicans

[West]

Umm....
Foreign steel - because the US doesn't make it.

Foreign workers - Canadians had the contract to the border than US workers were to take over at the border.

Send the oil overseas - Umm....it was to go to US refineries. If it was to go overseas, Canada would just do what they are doing anyway. Sending it to the coast to be shipped out.

Condemned Land - Land owners tried gouging the oil companies for prices to cross land. Very common practice. Land owners always forget about royalties they receive after the line is in, and passed. I know....I used to pipeline for a living and had to deal with many landowners. Indians/Natives are the worst to deal with. As far as fair price.....who sets the price. Whoop whoop....they pay for the replacement of crop lost, and for any damages. They have to reseed the land, and return it to as good or better than when they arrived. Plus the land owners get a bonus for the time used for being on the land. Many times a farmer has had his property bypassed because of greed. Same with drilling for oil.....if the farmer wants too much, talk to his neighbor and directional drill under his land and hoover it all out.

Let me explain foreign steel. Once upon a time steel was made in northwest Indiana. Made by union workers in factories that were built in the early 1900's. Around the 1980-1990 the factories went under due to foreign steel which was being made in newer, more efficient facilities. We didn't upgrade, we didn't keep pace with Japan and other countries. That is why we lost. The workers were highly paid as well, but it was a dangerous job working. The Inland steel plant still stands... like a monument to complacency...

 

[garretttt4 10+ year member]

meh noboma won't get shit accomplished with the repubs running the house. will be the same old shit. when do i get my noboma phone by the way?

It'll be exactly the same as his first term. Causing more harm than good to our country....

 

[04silverz 10+ year member]

suck it!

I don't get too much into politics, don't consider myself republican or democrat or the new "fad" of independent. I just have my opinions and express them as I see fit.

I wouldn't be bragging too much about a president that has been in office for two of the five worst Post election drops in Dow jones history. Just sayin...

 

[THATpurpleKUSH 5,000+ posts]

I don't get too much into politics, don't consider myself republican or democrat or the new "fad" of independent. I just have my opinions and express them as I see fit. I wouldn't be bragging too much about a president that has been in office for two of the five worst Post election drops in Dow jones history. Just sayin...

He hasnt done too bad considering the problems he was left to handle due to the incompetency of the previous administration.

 

[THATpurpleKUSH 5,000+ posts]

Yes, way to throw your country under the bus. You deserve to be applauded.

In engrish prz? I don't speak butthurt

 

[Timmy13091 10+ year member]

In engrish prz? I don't speak butthurt

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[04silverz 10+ year member]

He hasnt done too bad considering the problems he was left to handle due to the incompetency of the previous administration.

Disagree. I doubt we will change each others minds though...

 

[LazyRider 10+ year member]

 

[SentraStyle 10+ year member]

He hasnt done too bad considering the problems he was left to handle due to the incompetency of the previous administration.

So is he going to man up and grow a pair or just keep blaming the past administration for all the problems these next four years too?

 

[THATpurpleKUSH 5,000+ posts]

So is he going to man up and grow a pair or just keep blaming the past administration for all the problems these next four years too?

Jesus tap dancing christ I'm sick of people acting like this. To say or even assume that Obama was given the keys to some picture perfect country, where not a single problem existed and as soon as Obama took over he fucked it all to hell is just plain ignorant at the least.

 

[SentraStyle 10+ year member]

Jesus tap dancing christ I'm sick of people acting like this. To say or even assume that Obama was given the keys to some picture perfect country, where not a single problem existed and as soon as Obama took over he fucked it all to hell is just plain ignorant at the least.

When and where did I say he did not take over in some rough times? But there comes a time when you have to accept responsibility for things and stop blaming everyone but yourself. He was the one that ran on lowering the deficit...if you hadn't noticed it is much higher, he was the one that ran on lowering the number of people unemployed...and while the unemployment % may be lower the fact is there are more Americans unemployed now than when he took office. I am not delusional...I don't think a republican in office would have made much of a difference (other than the deficit), but don't run on things if you can't deliver.

 

[showpump 10+ year member]

Jesus tap dancing christ I'm sick of people acting like this. To say or even assume that Obama was given the keys to some picture perfect country, where not a single problem existed and as soon as Obama took over he fucked it all to hell is just plain ignorant at the least.

The point of the president is turn it around. I can understand him not starting out with the best circumstances. But it is his JOB to make it better. Not continuously blame the last administration. Who is he going to blame when its 2015 and the country is still in shambles? I bet he wont be blaming himself.

 

[sam_b03 10+ year member]

Umm....
Foreign steel - because the US doesn't make it.

Foreign workers - Canadians had the contract to the border than US workers were to take over at the border.

Send the oil overseas - Umm....it was to go to US refineries. If it was to go overseas, Canada would just do what they are doing anyway. Sending it to the coast to be shipped out.

Condemned Land - Land owners tried gouging the oil companies for prices to cross land. Very common practice. Land owners always forget about royalties they receive after the line is in, and passed. I know....I used to pipeline for a living and had to deal with many landowners. Indians/Natives are the worst to deal with. As far as fair price.....who sets the price. Whoop whoop....they pay for the replacement of crop lost, and for any damages. They have to reseed the land, and return it to as good or better than when they arrived. Plus the land owners get a bonus for the time used for being on the land. Many times a farmer has had his property bypassed because of greed. Same with drilling for oil.....if the farmer wants too much, talk to his neighbor and directional drill under his land and hoover it all out.

I agree with most what what you said. The land owners want as much as they can get because they only get the surface damages. They get paid $X/rod when I pipe line crosses them. Then they get a $X/barrel of water if they have water on their property. Then Some much for location. Locally it's about $10K. The surface holders nly get the one time check for compensation for the time/damage on their property.It's the mineral owner is who get the royalites. Very seldom does a person have both especially for a complete section of land.

 

[groundpound4200 5,000+ posts]

Nobama won't be able to do anything anyway short of him pulling executive orders with the Republicans having the majority of the House anyway. If you guys knew how the system worked instead of just voting for handouts you would know this. There's still plenty of Republicans in power to throw a wrench in Nobama's gears.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Congress writes the checks.

As for the environmentalism thing, consider this... many nature loving groups are opposed to drilling for oil in ANWR, we might kill some caribou in the process. So instead of (possibly) killing caribou, we send American sons and daughters overseas to die while protecting our foreign oil interests. I have a cousin who lived in Alaska for many years, and is a die hard environmentalist. I told him this, and his reply was "there are a lot more Americans than there are caribou", implying that caribou lives are more valuable than human beings. There is no reasoning with these types of people.