i have my hertz hsk 165 and they sound awesome and crystal clear. only issue that i have with them is that they are not loud enough. they get decent but not the way i want them. how loud are yours and did i make the wrong choice of speakers for loudness? maybe my amp isnt giving them enough power? i have a rf 8002 but im not sure if im getting enough power to them because i have a friend with o2 mids and tweeterspowered by a jl amp that is rated 150 rms per channel and his gets so much louder but mine has him on sq. and suggestions thoughts comments would be appreciated. also if i turn the gain up it starts to clip. thanks