Grounding issues..... :(

[filtor1 10+ year member]

Lifting the ground will allow you to debug ground loops. If you lifted the ground using the plug and it fixed the problem, then you now for sure it's a ground loop. Identify the problem first, then try to fix it.

Ok that I agree with; just make sure you find a way to fix it if it IS the ground.

If by any chance in your life,

that device you bought had a failure, maybe a hot wire came loose and touched the metal chassis, an ungrounded chassis would cause high voltage on the metal and you can get shocked.

Ok, I might be a rather unlucky person or something, but at the Ripe Old Age of 20 I have NEVER seen a hot come loose and ground, however I have seen power supplies, outputs, and filters fail which cause a direct connection to ground that if not wired properly could have had the potential to kill or injure someone.

There is no real danger bypassing the ground, just don't make a habit of it.

Totally not true. The ground is a safety fail safe designed for electrical signal path. The ground IS a REAL DANGER and improperly grounded equipment may have a much shorter life.

Certain items I won't bypass ground like any machine what works with water that is plugged in to AC, otherwise audio gear is no big deal really. I've been shocked by 120VAC, no big deal. The bigger demon is 220VAC- 440VAC.

This is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. VOLTAGE DOES NOT KILL YOU! CURRENT DOES!!! 120 Volts AC has the ability to KILL YOU because of its ability to move current, it is a BIG DEAL!!! It honestly proves you have NO real concept about safety/grounding/or electric in general!

You can also modd existing gear using this trick.

 

Do not MODD your equipment! Unless you know EXACTLY what you are going to do and don't give a **** about your warranty or the rest of your system!

Electricity is NOT something to take lightly, it is NOT something to play with, and it most defiantly is something you ALWAYS treat with RESPECT!

I have no real interest in modding any of my equipment. I paid extra for an extended warranty through Tweeter so I wouldn't have to ever worry about component failure. You did re-affirm some ideas I had in conflict with the above post though. I suppose everyone has their own way of looking at the situation. I greatly appreciate your and all the responses.

 

[filtor1 10+ year member]

You have to see if there is a ground loop first using the adapter plug to identifyif that is the problem. Then determine your next path.

So, just to be precise, what step would I use with the adapter plug in order to confirm/dismiss my particular issue? Wiring and hookup, I can do that, but trouble shooting> my understanding of the path of electricity.

 

[thylantyr 10+ year member]

1. Audio equipment that comes with 3 prong AC cords, how many?

if none, then the noise problem is not caused by the AC line.

2. If you have an amp, preamp or whatever with 3 prongs, then connect

the 2 prong adapter and check to see if the noise exists, ideally connect

every piece of gear with the adapter until you isolated the problem.

If the noise exists and all your gear is plugged into the wall socket with only

two prongs, then you can assume that the AC power line/ground loop isn't the cause.

This takes a minute to figure out, it's easy.

 

[filtor1 10+ year member]

Sweet. I just got through a huge accounting test and haven't done anything yet. I am going to buy the 2 prong adapter tonight and go to town. I will give you the results as soon as I get the piece and test. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[thylantyr 10+ year member]

Sweet. I just got through a huge accounting test and haven't done anything yet. I am going to buy the 2 prong adapter tonight and go to town. I will give you the results as soon as I get the piece and test. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Accounting eh? This is cool. You can now report back to us any results you like

counter to reality.

/bad joke //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[filtor1 10+ year member]

I don't want you to think I just up and left. The wife and I are buying a house. The initial contract and loan pre approval went through today, so I am just going to wait and see what it does at the new place. I am sure it will be the same.