Got my 07 Scion tC yesterday

[theCybe 5,000+ posts]

"mid fifteens" is a safe way to call it, but there have been some timeslips showing up in the lower end. Seems altitude and humidity have a bit to do with it, too.

 

[joebangaa 10+ year member]

Honda and Nissan > All

 

[joebangaa 10+ year member]

"mid fifteens" is a safe way to call it, but there have been some timeslips showing up in the lower end. Seems altitude and humidity have a bit to do with it, too.

the car is N/A... altitude and humidity have EVERYTHING to do with it

 

[Eugenics 5,000+ posts]

those blocks are great, 400hp can be pulled out of them stock. The cars are nice looking, and they're toyotas so they're built great. If i was looking at a fwd car, this, the honda accord v6 coupe, and mini cooper s would be some of my top picks. i'd probaly go with the scion though. I could do quite a bit with the money i saved

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/greedy.gif.5a53e6246569d7ab79867170f3b06629.gif :greedy:

Honda and Nissan > All

idiot

 

[theCybe 5,000+ posts]

It's very well appointed for it's price, as stated.

to the noob who posted the honda comment: write back whenever you find the real world.

 

[joebangaa 10+ year member]

What was so incorrect about my statement? When it comes down to pure design and the resulting performance, Nissan and Honda kick the shit out of Toyota.

My personal mechanic has worked his 20 year career at dealerships for all three companies, Toyota being his shortest stay... and he replaced more engines and transmissions at his time at Toyota than all his years at Nissan and Honda combined. The whole misconception of Toyota's reliability is so widespread it's disgusting. Just look it up, Lexus' are no exception to this either.

Now don't start flaming because "every consumer survey out there" says otherwise. I'm not saying Camrys and Corollas are now pieces of shit. What I am saying, however, is that they're no more reliable than the other two Japanese manufacturers.

Honda and Toyota tend to be the most conservative of the three. This translates to a smaller failure rate for the entire spectrum of parts. Rarely do they change their source for parts. Nissan on the other hand, likes to test the waters (usually to cut costs), but usually only for electrical parts. At the very least, they leave the engines and transmissions uncompromised. Out of the box, Honda makes the best cars. Toyota has the nicest ride at the expense of performance. Nissan gives you something that you can have money dumped into it with great results.

Nissan for all out performance

Honda for fit/finish and overall design

Toyota for practicality and peace of mind

 

[theCybe 5,000+ posts]

What's incorrect about your statement is that it's a generalization, and (insert irony) generalizations are always wrong. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

What about the Versa, w/ JATCO CVT?

 

[Eugenics 5,000+ posts]

What was so incorrect about my statement? When it comes down to pure design and the resulting performance, Nissan and Honda kick the shit out of Toyota.
My personal mechanic has worked his 20 year career at dealerships for all three companies, Toyota being his shortest stay... and he replaced more engines and transmissions at his time at Toyota than all his years at Nissan and Honda combined. The whole misconception of Toyota's reliability is so widespread it's disgusting. Just look it up, Lexus' are no exception to this either.

Now don't start flaming because "every consumer survey out there" says otherwise. I'm not saying Camrys and Corollas are now pieces of shit. What I am saying, however, is that they're no more reliable than the other two Japanese manufacturers.

Honda and Toyota tend to be the most conservative of the three. This translates to a smaller failure rate for the entire spectrum of parts. Rarely do they change their source for parts. Nissan on the other hand, likes to test the waters (usually to cut costs), but usually only for electrical parts. At the very least, they leave the engines and transmissions uncompromised. Out of the box, Honda makes the best cars. Toyota has the nicest ride at the expense of performance. Nissan gives you something that you can have money dumped into it with great results.

Nissan for all out performance

Honda for fit/finish and overall design

Toyota for practicality and peace of mind

having watching quite a few hondas and lexus's pass through my garage i can say quite easily, the lexus's are by far the most reliable.

honda automatic transmissions are worthless, and my first accord was a nighmare (of course thats not typical, but i can say that since you can say all toyotas are). honda engines are INCREDIBLY overpriced for what you get out of them.

as far as all out performance, while i would rather have a rb25det or rb26dett, if i wanted the most power, i would go with the 2jz hands down. However, i still choose to stick with the rb25 because i want something that can produce plenty of power but is still very respnosive, i feel the rb's do a better job of that.

i have nothing bad to say about nissan.

just your ignorant statments.

oh and while were at it

chevy > ford

yank yank

 

[Ninja_Turtle 10+ year member]

Toyotas are built to last. I have a 1984 toyota corolla that still runs to this date strong.

 

[Neothin 10+ year member]

so you did end up getting the tC, good job //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Now you just have to catch up with my mods