Glass Breaking Stories

[carrion 10+ year member]

yea his uncle big american mussle fan now drives like a 55 chevvy little hot rod car loudest car i ever heard he changed it over so that the exhaust is a 3 foot pipe on each side the engine that run straight and up louder no muffler just 2 straight pipes he doesnt need a system that rattles the windows on houses and sets of car alarms when he parks next to them and gives his engine a rev

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

lmao sounds cool they have old mercs here that have flamethrower mufflers lol talk abouta hotfoot sheesh

 

[mrray13 10+ year member]

just for giggles, a viper acr runs the 1320 in just over 13 ticks, hits 60 just over 3.5 sweeps of the second hand. now that's done with around 500 ponies and torque and 345-35-18(?)tires. those tire's are apx 11 inches wide. this 1100 hp viper is just barely beating that? spinning or not, well, i just don't like vipers so i'll lay off.

oh yea, gearing is a wonderful thing, BUT, i seriously doubt ANY ride w/2.08's is going anywhere near 200 mph! see, torque gets u going, but horsepower is what keeps you there. if a car has 2.08's then more in likely it'll never stay in the car's "powerband". example: in viper's, 'vette's, camero's or anything with a 6 spd box, top end is NEVER achieved in 6th gear. the reason? simply, 6th is a over-overdrive, once in that gear the engine's rpm's drop to such a point that the car isn't making enuff horsepower to achieve any kind of really fast speed.

if torque is all a 1/4 miler needs, why do top fueler's pump out more than 5500 hp? the torque isn't no where close to that. in reality, you have to find a happy medium, where your engines torque curve and horsepower peaks compliment each other, as well as the 2nd and 3rd members(***** & rear end) gearing, stall, etc.

4 seconds quick time

i hope you mean that's how long it'll pull a wheel?

 

[carrion 10+ year member]

mrray13

thats what i was saying about the 1/4 those people dont care what the horsepower is cause they dont need to maintain the top speed of 140 mph they just need to get there before the cross the finish line and get there as fast as possible and thats all in the torque

(and just for laughs some kid in a toyota when i first got my car and it was stock was talking how Vw is a granny car and when someone that was a car fan and knows about cars including Vw wanted to know what i had under the hood the toyota says 2 D cell batteries so i said get your car and line it up he was driving an old corrolla i think 95 hp 90 pounds of torque so of course my 150 hp 1.8 T with 160 torque beats him easy and i say you dare say something about my engine when your my left arm can pull more torque than your engine) but he did have a 1000 dollar set of wheels and tires and a 50 dollar exhaust (if you can call it that) from pepboys little blue lights on the hood chrome windshield wipers and alot of stickers (cause they add so much power to the engine) a big spoiler on a front wheel drive car what a joke that infact most likly slows down your car if you have front wheel drive such as a civic your putting downward force on the part of the car where you dont want a downward force and taking force from the front where you want your wieght

spend little money on a car and alot of money on useless mods or spend money on car then even more money to make that engine pur

 

[mrray13 10+ year member]

carrion, man, i'm not trying to be rude, but, you didn't catch what i was saying. a top fueler is estimated to produce 5500 hp(no dyno big enuff to measure one) and probably around 2000 ftpd's of torque (just a guess there). you ABSOLUTLY have to have horsepower to win! yes, torque is very important, but it's only a piece of the puzzle.

here ya go....

say i have a 502ci motor. i get it dyno'd and say it puts out 650 ft pds of torque at 3500 rpm and 650 hp at 5800 rpm. when i'm at the end of the track where is my tach going to be? hopefully somewhere in the 45-5500 rpm range. that way i'm at or near my peak hp rating and hopefully my top end. as my mom used to say(yeah, she was a rodder!) torque to launch, horsepower to dinner!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

hope i didn't make ya mad, just wanted to make sure u got what i was saying!

 

[carrion 10+ year member]

na aint mad

and also had to add that my story is a glass breaking story few days later he broke one of my windows (next door nieghbor never got along with)

got him to buy me a new window for a few parts i removed from his car such as most of the exhaust system and a few other a little bit of ummm lets say talking it out

he learned dont mess with a guys car that can do alot worse to yours and can also bounce you off a few trees (not saying um big just that he is smaller than me)

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

i would believe torque to be more relivent in 1/8 mile but you can only have so much torque before those rubber things produce lots of bad white smoke

 

[zane 10+ year member]

torque and horsepower are both equally necessary. Not one is better than the other in any way. A car can not move without torque, however, a car can not apply torque without horsepower. Make sense?

take it easy,

-zane

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

hi zane ya its kinda like the ying without a yang but makes for a good fight lol

 

[zane 10+ year member]

ehh, why do you think thats my gripe for the day?

Been fighting with my ISP and Server to get a little more of this for my site.

as of now, I would love to either go a few rounds with Holyfield, or go to sleep.

blah blah blah

-zane

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

ok ill bite your ear!! wont bite it off or chew it -im not canabalistic

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

a big spoiler on a front wheel drive car what a joke that infact most likly slows down your car if you have front wheel drive such as a civic your putting downward force on the part of the car where you dont want a downward force and taking force from the front where you want your wieght

EERRR spoilers add down force for handling.... 90% of the cars with these dont need them....you taking your car to road atlanta?

 

[zane 10+ year member]

That was Tyson- but ok- bring it! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif Muahahahahahahaha!

Front Drive Cars with rear spoilers are often counterproductive, as you have pointed out, the downforce is not present in the right area and this actually creates more drag than anything. Most Import racers with front drive cars with rear spoilers, have equally matching front Air Dams- which also promote downforce on the front end of the car. The front and rear have to match up exactly in terms of latteral downforce, which in many cases, is tough to calculate. However, when achieved, handling, cornering, and accelleration are greatly improved.

Twisting and turning the laws of physics can accomplish some pretty cool things.

Mostly though, weather it import or rod crowd, the spoiler is a cosmetic item.

Just depends on where ones priorities lie, of course, some minor drag could be acceptable for the gains in appearance too.

take it easy,

-zane

 

[mrray13 10+ year member]

Mostly though, weather it import or rod crowd, the spoiler is a cosmetic item.

uh, yep! most people who buy them are into the cosmetic end.

torque and horsepower are both equally necessary. Not one is better than the other in any way. A car can not move without torque, however, a car can not apply torque without horsepower.

uh, yep there too! like i was saying........

in reality, you have to find a happy medium, where your engines torque curve and horsepower peaks compliment each other, as well as the 2nd and 3rd members(***** & rear end) gearing, stall, etc.

it's all gotta be there or well, i'll see you at the finish line (after me!)//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/banghead.gif.8606515f668c74f6de0281deb475b6fd.gif

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

oh yea? what if you was drag racing while hauling trailers? lol