Gimme ideas on SQL front stage.

[8thGenSI 10+ year member]

Running a DC level 5 12" in a ported box tuned to 32 hz on a RD 3250.1 in my 2014 WRX. Currently have a CDT ES set up for front stage running on a Mosconi Gladen 120.4, I don't think my current front stage will keep up. I want to bridge the Mosconi and power a nice set of SQL components.

The Mosconi can do 340ish watts bridged, any ideas on some decent sounding components that can handle that much juice?

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[8thGenSI 10+ year member]

I'm thinking these...

https://www.parts-express.com/prv-audio-6mr500-ndy-4-6-1-2-neodymium-midrange-woofer-4-ohm--294-2706

But I really do not want to run bullet tweeters, I will get a second pair of CDT tweets before I do that.

 

[fly_marlin]

You don't think it WILL keep up? You haven't installed it? See how it is first, then look for an upgrade if you still think you need it.

 

[8thGenSI 10+ year member]

You don't think it WILL keep up? You haven't installed it? See how it is first, then look for an upgrade if you still think you need it.

I have pretty good reason to believe it... I had 2 10" jl w7's ran on 1500 watts in a sealed box in the car previously, judging by how hard I had to run my front stage with that sub stage to get the sound I wanted leads me to believe that need to upgrade. I am going to what I know will be a much louder sub set up' I did some testing with a box I threw together. Yea, I need an upgrade on front stage for sure.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

You need to take time to work out the install and tuning. My single set of splits keeps up with my sub stage just fine.

 

[trumpet 5,000+ posts]

What ES Gold speakers do you have? I would not try to run that much power through passive crossovers. I need more information before I can make a recommendation.

My car uses CDT HD-6 for midbass with 250W RMS per woofer. The midrange and tweeters are run passively with 85W RMS per side. I use ES-04 and HD-1A/BL. These aren't the only speakers in my system but I'm confident if I pared it down to the 3-ways it would still be plenty loud for 1 12" ported. The key is good sensitivity on the speakers and for high power handling you need to use very safe crossover settings.

 

[8thGenSI 10+ year member]

The front stage will have to be upgraded eventually regardless. I will be up upgrading my substage again in December, I anticipate running about 7k watts.

 

[8thGenSI 10+ year member]

What ES Gold speakers do you have? I would not try to run that much power through passive crossovers. I need more information before I can make a recommendation.
My car uses CDT HD-6 for midbass with 250W RMS per woofer. The midrange and tweeters are run passively with 85W RMS per side. I use ES-04 and HD-1A/BL. These aren't the only speakers in my system but I'm confident if I pared it down to the 3-ways it would still be plenty loud for 1 12" ported. The key is good sensitivity on the speakers and for high power handling you need to use very safe crossover settings.

I am running the ES-6IM and ES-010.

 

[raptor727 10+ year member]

Make the switch to pro audio?? I am testing Rockford Fosgate T3 comps soon myself with a 6kw sub stage lol.

 

[trumpet 5,000+ posts]

I am running the ES-6IM and ES-010.

That's not drastically different from what I'm running, except I added a midrange speaker. The addition of a small midrange helps to maintain clarity and it adds a bit of additional output. I'm not certain that is a route you need to take. It's harder to tune a 3-way system, but the results are very rewarding.

Power handling for a midrange woofer, and really any kind of midrange or tweeter, increases as you remove more lower frequencies from what the driver is allowed to play. For example, a lot of people like to cross their 6.5" mids at around 60 Hz to get more bass up front. That often is a struggle for a 6.5" to play truly loudly with good clarity as the cone is pounding like mad. Less cone movement is best for reducing distortion. The way to make that happen with a 6.5 is to raise the crossover frequency and/or increasing the slope. Right now I'm using 90 Hz at -24 dB/octave for the sub/midbass crossovers. Would this work for you? It depends on how well the subwoofer will perform that high.