i dont believe those audio guys are more stupid than cartronics in madison tn,real pro's down there lol,one second they tell you,oh you need a cap,they see you looking at kinetik batteries,then they are like,oh wait,you need that battery instead lol,and proceed to tell you they can build the ultimate box for $250.00 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif allso one time i asked them if they carry any kenwood amps,they said no,but had one hooked up on the display //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif oh yea,when they said i needed a cap,i explained to them that only my 4 buttons on my alpine 9825 were the ones dimming,yea,im sure a cap would fix dat lol lol