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yup... all my hardware that worked on 2000 worked on xp (as did the software), and I wasn't running XP I was running whistler.Like I said if your trying to compare the issues with 2000 or xp to vista, I would say you should do one of two things, 1) play with different computers a little more to get a feel for what different configurations run like, 2) put the crack pipe down.

I have installed xp on quite a few systems, each system worked like a charm, programs from the maritime world all the way to very old realestate programs, from old thumbdrives to old (and I mean OLD) printers, to new scanners, even slide scanners... gps units... I cant even remember them all.

I played with vista (both as vista and longhorn) and had immediate issues even in multiple configurations (something I never experienced (at any level) with xp or whistler).

you may call this anecdotal but I believe this is the general consciouses for people who know and build/fix/see different computers.
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There were tons of things that didn't work w/ XP when it came out ... SimCity, for example ... Easy Media Creator 4, for example ... Epson Stylus Colour, for example ... Ultima VIII, for example ...
Ever try getting a wide variety of shit to work w/ Linux ? OS X ? Vista has immensely superior hardware and software support, but no one slags them over it ...

I build/fix/see computers w/ Vista and XP everyday ... Vista isn't any worse than XP is except in hardware/software support and performance on low-end hardware, but that's only because XP is almost 6.5 years old and EVERYTHING released in the last 6 years was designed around XP ...

XP was sluggish on low-end hardware when it first came out ... XP didn't have as good of hardware/software support as Windows 98 when it first came out ... FACT OF LIFE WHEN A NEW OS IS INTRODUCED ...

 
yup... all my hardware that worked on 2000 worked on xp (as did the software), and I wasn't running XP I was running whistler.Like I said if your trying to compare the issues with 2000 or xp to vista, I would say you should do one of two things, 1) play with different computers a little more to get a feel for what different configurations run like, 2) put the crack pipe down.

I have installed xp on quite a few systems, each system worked like a charm, programs from the maritime world all the way to very old realestate programs, from old thumbdrives to old (and I mean OLD) printers, to new scanners, even slide scanners... gps units... I cant even remember them all.

I played with vista (both as vista and longhorn) and had immediate issues even in multiple configurations (something I never experienced (at any level) with xp or whistler).

you may call this anecdotal but I believe this is the general consciouses for people who know and build/fix/see different computers.
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There were tons of things that didn't work w/ XP when it came out ... SimCity, for example ... Easy Media Creator 4, for example ... Epson Stylus Colour, for example ... Ultima VIII, for example ...
Ever try getting a wide variety of shit to work w/ Linux ? OS X ? Vista has immensely superior hardware and software support, but no one slags them over it ...

I build/fix/see computers w/ Vista and XP everyday ... Vista isn't any worse than XP is except in hardware/software support and performance on low-end hardware, but that's only because XP is almost 6.5 years old and EVERYTHING released in the last 6 years was designed around XP ...

XP was sluggish on low-end hardware when it first came out ... XP didn't have as good of hardware/software support as Windows 98 when it first came out ... FACT OF LIFE WHEN A NEW OS IS INTRODUCED ...
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wow, your serious... and your a professional (i.e. you do this kind of thing for a living),

well I have always said that you can be a pro just as long as there is at least one idiot dumb enough to pay you!

(and obviously linux is a different matter, i just mentioned it because it is a AWSOME OS if you can handle not running MS programs (or at least not many))

And the support I was referring to was RIGHT when xp was released (ALSO before it came out when it was whistler).

it didnt support media creator and sim city.... well you first problem is that you were trying to load simcity and easy creator lol!

 
Vista sucks, if you like it you dont know jack about computers.
The whole point of vista was winfs which was scraped in the early longhorn trials as they could never get it to work right.

Xp lite sound interesting never used it but my current install of xp pro is only 4 1/2 gb so I guess uhh anyway.

Just install XP Pro or 2000 or suse or something, optimize it (kill the the stuff you dont need running in the background), turn off some of the dumb fluff stuff and bada bing.

also that computer you have should be a screaming fast system if optimized properly.
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I like vista, so I don't know jack shit about computers? FAIL.

 
Alright, So our new family computer runs vista. Nvidia 8600 GT, AMD Athlon 64 Dual Core 3.0ghz, 2gb ram, you know, nothing special. It's not half bad, and after a little bit I grew to like vista.
I just get done loading ALL my ****ING Music. 1000 songs, with more on the way, in anticipation of my iPod which is going to arrive tomorrow. 2 movies, shit load of pictures, not to mention It has some of my school work on it still.

Turn it on and i get:

Windows cannot load because a corrupted file ____ cannot be loaded.

Vista is toast.

Along with all my shit on there.

**** VISTA.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif
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If you can't get vista back up and running without losing all your stuff then YOU FAIL. Actually you failed when you didn't start the whole thing by making a separate partition for storage. Also you can't say right off the bat it was the OS. It could very well be hardware failure causing a corrupted file. Last but not least, file corruption is not an MS exclusive.

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This is what I can't stand (my conspiracy theory.) Used to be computers didn't need internet to operate, I still have quite a few computers at home that are never connected to the internet, I feel they got too lazy building this OS with the knowledge that "oh well if it sucks we can always 'update' it via the internet." Gone are the old days when stuff HAD to work out of the box cause there was no easy way to update/fix bugs and other issues. Now they can produce a sub par product and just issue bug fixes.
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You have no clue then. If you built PCs back then you would know there wasn't an OS in the world that ran out of the box like XP and vista have. When you first loaded earlier windows on a PC, many drivers weren't there for your hardware. You had to make sure you held on to those install CDs for ALL hardware. Not necessary now. I throw them CDs away. Using the internet for updated drivers is beyond convenient.

 
If you can't get vista back up and running without losing all your stuff then YOU FAIL. Actually you failed when you didn't start the whole thing by making a separate partition for storage. Also you can't say right off the bat it was the OS. It could very well be hardware failure causing a corrupted file. Last but not least, file corruption is not an MS exclusive.

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Wouldn't I still lose it because the HD's are in Raid? The Corrupted file wasn't the only thing. Nothing (hardware wise) worked when I loaded up vista the first time. The drivers all said they could not load because they were not 64bit drivers (yet they were).

Throw that in with the CONSTANT freezes, and i ditched it.

I'm not a computer expert, so you know what? go to hell man! I don't play games or do anything like that, I just want a fast computer that works and doesn't ****ing crash every other day. Is that too much to ask? I didn't think Vista would puke out in 2 months.

delete this thread. It has no purpose anymore (if it ever did //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif)

 
Dont expect it to all work, holy chit are you serious? If you bought a car and the windows didn't go down the next day and the service guy told you that line what would you say?Trying to say the vista has the same support / problem rate of the other OSs is ludicrous, heck look at all the ram is uses, lack of support for hardware, software etc. etc. you can't polish a turd, just like ME.

Also how do you deal with it all day, are you working in one of those call centers or something?
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i work for sony in the vaio computer division. theres some driver issues yea but a large majority of problems people try to put on vista are user stupidity.

 
wow, your serious... and your a professional (i.e. you do this kind of thing for a living),
well I have always said that you can be a pro just as long as there is at least one idiot dumb enough to pay you!

(and obviously linux is a different matter, i just mentioned it because it is a AWSOME OS if you can handle not running MS programs (or at least not many))

And the support I was referring to was RIGHT when xp was released (ALSO before it came out when it was whistler).

it didnt support media creator and sim city.... well you first problem is that you were trying to load simcity and easy creator lol!
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Someone who has "played" w/ Vista vs. someone who deals w/ it on a regular basis ... but you know more than I do ? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/hilarious.gif.02a037aad04aa96f19982b298a3d70a8.gif Everyone has a "computer expert" like you who thinks they know everything, then people bring their computer into me because people like you fvcked it up ...
I wasn't trying to load Media Creator or SimCity on, n00b. Half the "problems" w/ Vista are that people are trying to load software/hardware that wasn't designed for Vista, which obviously isn't going to work every time (one of your arguments to why it sucks, IYO) and yet, when I point out that XP didn't support older hardware/software when it came out, it's user fault because the user should know ? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

And how is Linux different ? It's a freaking operating system ... You expect Vista to work w/ everything, but it's not fair to expect Linux to work w/ everything ? Please ...

 
Wouldn't I still lose it because the HD's are in Raid? The Corrupted file wasn't the only thing. Nothing (hardware wise) worked when I loaded up vista the first time. The drivers all said they could not load because they were not 64bit drivers (yet they were).
Throw that in with the CONSTANT freezes, and i ditched it.

I'm not a computer expert, so you know what? go to hell man! I don't play games or do anything like that, I just want a fast computer that works and doesn't ****ing crash every other day. Is that too much to ask? I didn't think Vista would puke out in 2 months.

delete this thread. It has no purpose anymore (if it ever did //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif)
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No. If you preload the driver when booting into the CD, you can still repair and bring it back up. Dealing with raid isn't any different than dealing with any storage controller, aside from the fact that the drivers need to be preloaded if not on the CD.
 
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