For all of You visual learner's

[ToyTundra 10+ year member]

Dude it does fly. Its already been established. And just incase you need to see furthe proof....
http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/191034-1.html > you.

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i still don't understand the set up; I thought the plane's engine was off and it was teathered to the actual ground (no horizontal movment) with a powered conveyor belt, but i guess not.

Either way, i don't care.

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

I just wish all these n00bx would STFU...

Plane and simple, the plain will NOT fly.

NG

 

[geonfreaq 10+ year member]

I just wish all these n00bx would STFU...
Plane and simple, the plain will NOT fly.

NG

Yes it will

 

[Acidburn 5,000+ posts]

I just wish all these n00bx would STFU...
Plane and simple, the plain will NOT fly.

NG

youre right, the plain will not fly, but the plane will

 

[jujumantb 10+ year member]

There are some idiots on this forum... a plane is not a car you dumbasses, its propelled by *******/pushing air, not by its wheels... if it were the air moving in the opposite direction of the plane at the same speed, it would still take off, it just would have zero velocity, small planes in extremely windy conditions have been known to fly backwards..

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

youre right, the plain will not fly, but the plane will

Agreed. What a bunch of n00bx.

NG

 

[djman37 5,000+ posts]

hahaha... way to be misinformed.
another edit: how do hang gliders work then?

http://www.studyworld.com/newsite/ReportEssay/Science/Physical%5CThe_Principle_Of_Flight-381047.htm

If you put the paper on, it's right, the plane would fly, but because of the fact that the conveyer is moving at the same speed but opposite direction as the thrust of the aircraft, the aircraft itself does not move forward but the two forces counteract themselves.

Since the forces counteract themselves, the plain stays stationary, hence no air moving over the wing. If there is no air moving over the surface of the wing, you can not create a low pressure zone. No difference between air zones= no lift. no lift = no flight

edit: physics, learn it.

physics > common sense.

self pwnt

 

[1990black300zx 10+ year member]

There are some idiots on this forum... a plane is not a car you dumbasses, its propelled by *******/pushing air, not by its wheels... if it were the air moving in the opposite direction of the plane at the same speed, it would still take off, it just would have zero velocity, small planes in extremely windy conditions have been known to fly backwards..

thank you

The air, which the plane applies its force on, is not moving, therefore the plane will go forward. End of story.

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i still don't understand the set up; I thought the plane's engine was off and it was teathered to the actual ground (no horizontal movment) with a powered conveyor belt, but i guess not.

Either way, i don't care.

where did the question say it was teathered??

 

[barrman]

the plane won't fly. air needs to be moving above and under the wings to create lift. if the plane is moving forward, and the conveyor is moving backwards at the same speed, then the plane is effectively "not moving". if the plane isnt moving, there's NO WAY it will take off, because there is no airflow moving across the wings to create lift!

 

[1990black300zx 10+ year member]

the plane won't fly. air needs to be moving above and under the wings to create lift. if the plane is moving forward, and the conveyor is moving backwards at the same speed, then the plane is effectively "not moving". if the plane isnt moving, there's NO WAY it will take off, because there is no airflow moving across the wings to create lift!

it IS moving. Yes, the conveyor belt is moving backwards, but all that's doing is making the wheels spin that much faster. The wheels spin freely(with the exception of friction) and WILL NOT keep the plane from moving forward. The thrust of the engine WILL move the plane forward, which will eventually result in enough lift for the plane to take off.

Take one of the balsa wood planes that has the rubberband propellors(you twist the rubber band up, then when it realeased, it spins the prop.). Wind up the propeller, and place it on a treadmill going as fast as you want it to go. Release the prop, and it will take off.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

the plane won't fly. air needs to be moving above and under the wings to create lift. if the plane is moving forward, and the conveyor is moving backwards at the same speed, then the plane is effectively "not moving". if the plane isnt moving, there's NO WAY it will take off, because there is no airflow moving across the wings to create lift!

OMGWTFBBQWHATTHEHELLISSOHARDABOUTTHISTHATYOUGUYSDON'TUNDERSTANDTHEPLANEWILLFLY

http://forums.caraudio.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1322640&postcount=77

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

The plain WILL NOT fly.

NGjizm

 

[ToyTundra 10+ year member]

thank you
The air, which the plane applies its force on, is not moving, therefore the plane will go forward. End of story.

where did the question say it was teathered??

you never said it was teathered. i read the original thread first and didn't get it.

 

[geonfreaq 10+ year member]

The plane WILL NOT fly.
NGjizm

It doesnt matter how many times you type it or miss spell it, the plane will still fly.

 

[PatFitz9 10+ year member]

okay I am not sure if i am reading the original post right, but the conveyor under the plane is moving at the same speed as the plane. this makes the planes overall speed 0mph right? therefore it cannot be flying since it isn't moving.

take your matchbox car example. yes you can push it forward, but then the conveyor underneath it isn't compensating for the car's speed, so that's out.

the people saying that the plane can take off are only right if they are saying that it can move forward. however, just like that car example, that voids the problem since the conveyor under the plane isn't doing what it is supposed to be doing.

wanna use physics? planes can't fly if there isn't air moving around the wings, period. the jets can move as much air as they want, but if the air isn't moving around the wings there isn't flight.

so unless this is a harrier jet, IT CAN'T TAKE OFF. otherwise, we would put these magic planes to use and not need huge runways. Aircraft carriers wouldn't have to worry about extensive training and power to get fighter jets off the boat.