Finance crew: buy this ish NOW

[its_bacon12 10+ year member]

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=OPWV#chart2:symbol=opwv;range=5y;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined

Check it out. Notice the HUGE spike in volume traded July 3rd, 2006. That's when the original stories came out about them restating financial statements dating back a few years because of improper options backdating.

April to July the stock price dropped from $21.64 to $6.12... dropping about 71.5% in those 2.5 months. They're pretty darn ready for an acquisition soon at the price of $1.77 today..

 

[its_bacon12 10+ year member]

I believe the SEC issued a subpoena, and an informal investigation around April to July for OPWV.

 

[its_bacon12 10+ year member]

Just did some research on my handy dandy Bloomberg terminal next to me and July 5th 2006, OPWV received subpoenas seeking documents related to stock options grants.

Anyways, this is getting way off topic. I'm surrounded by experts in this field at my internship and I've learned quite a bit from them and the tools at my disposal. I'm a big DIY guy, that includes learning about the market and how to make money off it with as little risk as possible.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Its bacon...just sit tight. I look forward to Bryan Cain's next revelation in modern finance.

 

[its_bacon12 10+ year member]

Who's Brian Cain?

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Who's Brian Cain?

Then, you are Speculating and that is not the game I play.
If you really want to get anywhere in these markets you going to have to think like a Money Lender because that is EXACTLY what you are doing. You are loaning money to this company.

Think of every dollar that enters your hands as a bank deposit and every dollar that leaves your hands for potential growth as a loan. If you don't do it this way you're going to watch the ticker everyday, be emotionally attached to your holding, and all your logic will go out the window.

There is two side to this game:

a. Chucking dice in hopes of Short-term Capital Gains based upon market fluctuation.

Or.

b. REALLY taking a solid position when the stock is depressed, positioning yourself as a Creditor to the business, and knowing the business entirely.

You want to invest in the value the company brings to human beings and hold it for it's Cash-Flow from it's Dividend. This increases your earning ability and you can move on, appraising new investments. Adding more and more economic power and more income.

You do not want to speculate. You want to add more economic power to your portfolio and preserve your Capital.

Read their Annual Reports, learn their business, and then based upon your gut feeling and present knowledge, make a well informed lending/investment decision.

Instead of sitting in this thread trying to prove an irrelevant detail, why don't you start appraising companies with good long term Fundamentals. Or figure out a way to increase your personal Economic worth and value. That way you can actually invest outside of your current paradigm.
It doesn't matter if buying shares on the secondary market is considered loaning the company money or not. The Corporation issued it's Equities upon establishment in exchange for front money to get it's self off the ground. They opted to use that form of Leverage as the spring board and that is still the practice of lending money and it took place at least someplace in time. Whether you consider it lending or holding an equitable interest in the corporation somebody still LENT their currency to the company.

^^

 

[BryanCain]

Its bacon...just sit tight. I look forward to Bryan Cain's next revelation in modern finance.

Two words: Wage Earner.

I will stick to lending Money as a business. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif If I took advice from people like you I wouldn't be where I am today.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Two words: Wage Earner.
I will stick to lending Money as a business. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif If I took advice from people like you I wouldn't be where I am today.

Good. I am glad whatever you have done works for you...

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

Them sounds like fighting words to me....

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[its_bacon12 10+ year member]

OH!! Hahahahaha......

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Them sounds like fighting words to me....
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I am not getting into it.

He may make a few bucks here and there actually loaning money. As for knowing wtf he is talking about no. I know loan sharks who make a great living but has no idea who Harry Markowitz is. Fortunately for some, knowing technical finance is not required for profitability.

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

I am not getting into it.
He may make a few bucks here and there actually loaning money. As for knowing wtf he is talking about no. I know loan sharks who make a great living but has no idea who Harry Markowitz is. Fortunately for some, knowing technical finance is not required for profitability.

I actually wasnt even talking about you. You posted while I was posting. I was referring to king baller the lender calling you a 'wage earner' //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I actually wasnt even talking about you. You posted while I was posting. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Gotcha.

He called me wage earner like it was some kind of diss....

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I actually wasnt even talking about you. You posted while I was posting. I was referring to king baller the lender calling you a 'wage earner' //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

He works at a deferred presentment shop on the poor side of town...

 

[BryanCain]

Bro, you're still Earning that Wage. You working for the SSA and IRS and probably the Banker who authorized the Mortgage on your house.

If I need to know all this shit then why does all that I "earn" immediately get converted to wealth... TAX FREE.

What do you convert to wealth DOLLAR-FOR-DOLLAR on your earnings? .15c?

You see I actually OWN capital that people desire, need, and use everyday to live. What do you have to show for yourself? A few more comprehended books in your skull than I?