Finance crew: buy this ish NOW

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

****, make that yesterday morning, I'm tired as shit.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I am not trying to be a creditor to anyone. I was watching the ticker on CNBC this morning, saw it was down another 8%, and said shit, I'm buying. Later in the day, turns out it was listed as the pick of the day.

Super technically speaking...if the company defaults, you have a claim on the assets...like a creditor...but you are so far down on the list, if you own 1,000 shares, you might get a couple dollars.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

Roth IRA > *

Tax Free Moneys ftw

 

[97gp 5,000+ posts]

It looks like its going to go down more after they release their quarter earnings. I would wait until they release their earnings, maybe after that I would buy.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Roth IRA > *
Tax Free Moneys ftw

depends. I am not so sure in 40 years the govt won't change the rules.

 

[bigbirney420 10+ year member]

Roth IRA > *
Tax Free Moneys ftw

Its never tax free, you still pay for the Roth with funds after tax salary reduction, so they get thiers either way. It is better option for down the road for some. Just depends on tax bracket and years of retirement. Roth is great, but only if you make certain amount or less. Can be a pain in the *** if you deposit into a Roth only to find out you made too much money and can only contribute to a traditional.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

It looks like its going to go down more after they release their quarter earnings. I would wait until they release their earnings, maybe after that I would buy.

It's sliding today, but it could turn around like a ***** after you accidentally stick your dick in her ***.

 

[Crzy 10+ year member]

lehman brothers is in trouble dads friend works for them had mass layoffs? i dunno i wouldnt invest look at the charta nd how much its been dropping

 

[BryanCain]

I am not trying to be a creditor to anyone. I was watching the ticker on CNBC this morning, saw it was down another 8%, and said shit, I'm buying. Later in the day, turns out it was listed as the pick of the day.

Then, you are Speculating and that is not the game I play.

If you really want to get anywhere in these markets you going to have to think like a Money Lender because that is EXACTLY what you are doing. You are loaning money to this company.

Think of every dollar that enters your hands as a bank deposit and every dollar that leaves your hands for potential growth as a loan. If you don't do it this way you're going to watch the ticker everyday, be emotionally attached to your holding, and all your logic will go out the window.

There is two side to this game:

a. Chucking dice in hopes of Short-term Capital Gains based upon market fluctuation.

Or.

b. REALLY taking a solid position when the stock is depressed, positioning yourself as a Creditor to the business, and knowing the business entirely.

You want to invest in the value the company brings to human beings and hold it for it's Cash-Flow from it's Dividend. This increases your earning ability and you can move on, appraising new investments. Adding more and more economic power and more income.

You do not want to speculate. You want to add more economic power to your portfolio and preserve your Capital.

Read their Annual Reports, learn their business, and then based upon your gut feeling and present knowledge, make a well informed lending/investment decision.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Then, you are Speculating and that is not the game I play.
If you really want to get anywhere in these markets you going to have to think like a Money Lender because that is EXACTLY what you are doing. You are loaning money to this company.

Think of every dollar that enters your hands as a bank deposit and every dollar that leaves your hands for potential growth as a loan. If you don't do it this way you're going to watch the ticker everyday, be emotionally attached to your holding, and all your logic will go out the window.

There is two side to this game:

a. Chucking dice in hopes of Short-term Capital Gains based upon market fluctuation.

Or.

b. REALLY taking a solid position when the stock is depressed, positioning yourself as a Creditor to the business, and knowing the business entirely.

You want to invest in the value the company brings to human beings and hold it for it's Cash-Flow from it's Dividend. This increases your earning ability and you can move on, appraising new investments. Adding more and more economic power and more income.

You do not want to speculate. You want to add more economic power to your portfolio and preserve your Capital.

Read their Annual Reports, learn their business, and then based upon your gut feeling and present knowledge, make a well informed lending/investment decision.

How is purchasing shares on the secondary market in any way loaning money to the company?

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

Then, you are Speculating and that is not the game I play.
If you really want to get anywhere in these markets you going to have to think like a Money Lender because that is EXACTLY what you are doing. You are loaning money to this company.

Think of every dollar that enters your hands as a bank deposit and every dollar that leaves your hands for potential growth as a loan. If you don't do it this way you're going to watch the ticker everyday, be emotionally attached to your holding, and all your logic will go out the window.

There is two side to this game:

a. Chucking dice in hopes of Short-term Capital Gains based upon market fluctuation.

Or.

b. REALLY taking a solid position when the stock is depressed, positioning yourself as a Creditor to the business, and knowing the business entirely.

You want to invest in the value the company brings to human beings and hold it for it's Cash-Flow from it's Dividend. This increases your earning ability and you can move on, appraising new investments. Adding more and more economic power and more income.

You do not want to speculate. You want to add more economic power to your portfolio and preserve your Capital.

Read their Annual Reports, learn their business, and then based upon your gut feeling and present knowledge, make a well informed lending/investment decision.

I swore you were BrianChia when I saw your name //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif
Good info. On another note, I called my uncle today and asked him about it, and he effectively said (after using a shit ton of business speak I didn't understand) this is the week to buy. He used to work for them, so he knows em up and down.

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Lols.

nG

 

[bigbirney420 10+ year member]

How is purchasing shares on the secondary market in any way loaning money to the company?

I agree

The money for the Company is raised in the IPO, the secondary markets is for Brokers, Market Makers and Shareholders to make money

 

[MurderedOut 10+ year member]

I bought $50k worth on my Investment game, we'll see how it does.

 

[BryanCain]

How is purchasing shares on the secondary market in any way loaning money to the company?

Instead of sitting in this thread trying to prove an irrelevant detail, why don't you start appraising companies with good long term Fundamentals. Or figure out a way to increase your personal Economic worth and value. That way you can actually invest outside of your current paradigm.

It doesn't matter if buying shares on the secondary market is considered loaning the company money or not. The Corporation issued it's Equities upon establishment in exchange for front money to get it's self off the ground. They opted to use that form of Leverage as the spring board and that is still the practice of lending money and it took place at least someplace in time. Whether you consider it lending or holding an equitable interest in the corporation somebody still LENT their currency to the company.