Fi btl 15 ???

[ahole-ic]

SO much fail in this thread. Everyone that says "it will take x amount of watts to get y sub moving" is not properly informed. Simply do not listen to them.

 

[Kangaroux 5,000+ posts]

SO much fail in this thread. Everyone that says "it will take x amount of watts to get y sub moving" is not properly informed. Simply do not listen to them.

then do us all a favor and properly inform us instead of comin outta nowhere with your ragepants on

 

[ahole-ic]

then do us all a favor and properly inform us instead of comin outta nowhere with your ragepants on

I'm sure you thought that was very clever, yet I didn't "rage" on anyone. It would be much easier for me to explain why you're wrong when you explain to me why he needs 2500+ watts to "get a btl moving".

 

[GAMEOVERCCA 10+ year member]

SO much fail in this thread. Everyone that says "it will take x amount of watts to get y sub moving" is not properly informed. Simply do not listen to them.

elaborate o wise sir

 

[Kangaroux 5,000+ posts]

I'm sure you thought that was very clever, yet I didn't "rage" on anyone. It would be much easier for me to explain why you're wrong when you explain to me why he needs 2500+ watts to "get a btl moving".

that's what i asked the first time. if it is much easier for you to explain it then why didnt you just do so?

 

[ahole-ic]

that's what i asked the first time. if it is much easier for you to explain it then why didnt you just do so?

Please try to pay attention. Re-read so you understand.

 

[Ryan shaw 10+ year member]

btl will get loud off of 1000w. it will get louder off 3000

just about any set of 4 12's will get louder though. you're talking more than twice the cone area, so even at 300w a sub that will be over 1000w and over 2x the cone area and more motor force as well.

 

[ahole-ic]

btl will get loud off of 1000w. it will get louder off 3000
just about any set of 4 12's will get louder though. you're talking more than twice the cone area, so even at 300w a sub that will be over 1000w and over 2x the cone area and more motor force as well.

I'm not saying I agree or disagree. I'm just saying it's not quite that simple.

 

[ahole-ic]

Answer some questions and you'll understand why you're so wrong.

#1, across the sub bass frequencies (20hz - 80hz), if given the same amount of power does the woofer travel the same distance?

#2, When taking into account port tuning frequency, does the cone move the same distance on the same power above tuning, at tuning, and below tuning?

#3, Does the distance the cone travels directly relate to SPL?

These questions should get us started pretty well.

 

[Ryan shaw 10+ year member]

valid points, has nothing at all to do with the question at hand but valid points.

a woofer with more power will move more air at all frequencies and create more pressure. end of story.

 

[ahole-ic]

valid points, has nothing at all to do with the question at hand but valid points.
a woofer with more power will move more air at all frequencies and create more pressure. end of story.

Not relevant. It was stated that x amount of power was needed to "get the btl moving" and my questions are dead on point of showing how that is NOT true.

 

[Ryan shaw 10+ year member]

more power will move it more.

obviously 1 watt will get it to move, it's a figure of speech to say how much power will get it moving to where it will be performing optimally

 

[ahole-ic]

more power will move it more.
obviously 1 watt will get it to move, it's a figure of speech to say how much power will get it moving to where it will be performing optimally

It's not a figure of speech. That's a cop out. Admit you're wrong and stop making excuses for it. "optimally" wtf does that mean? Answer the questions above and it clearly proves you wrong. Answer them.

 

[Ryan shaw 10+ year member]

jesus christ you are dense.

all i'm saying is more power is better for a subwoofer up until its thermal and mechanical limits.

as you increase power you get more output...a simple test can prove this - turning up the volume

 

[ahole-ic]

jesus christ you are dense.
all i'm saying is more power is better for a subwoofer up until its thermal and mechanical limits.

as you increase power you get more output...a simple test can prove this - turning up the volume

LOL! this is not the argument.