february 28th ( very long and involved)

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

LAWL at Dozy and Faulkton!

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

I feel I may need to dive deeper into the quote in your sig. In my experiences, it seems as if many youth of both races tend to only see what's visible. When I graduated high school, there were a couple students who went to Ivy League schools and many more who went to work for Nissan. For those who don't know, Nissan and its support contractors basically make the area I am from.
Who would you figure got the most praise from teachers, principals, peers, etc? The answer is those who go the jobs at Nissan. I don't think many of our youth (which I am a member of) have the ability to see what's not visible to them. Seeing local drug dealers rise out of the slums is visible. Many people know someone who has done this. Therefore, drug dealing your way out of the projects becomes possible. Because that method to success is visible, it is also achievable. Many people I know do not know anyone who has become a lawyer. The reason is that those who do succeed in academia or business get the hell out and don't want any part of that life anymore. I am a somewhat successful financial analyst and options trader. I could go back to high school and explain to young students about what I do an options they have when the pursue careers.

The reason I do not is because such occupations are not respected by many young teens. I could tell them I spend about 5 hours a day researching stocks and still sometimes I lose money. I could tell them I work two jobs to raise the money to gain enough capital to successfully run an options fund. However, that isn’t cool or fun. There are no women that throw themselves at me because I trade options. Great traders do not have 20” rims or hundred thousand dollar jewelry; they have estates and bank accounts. However, these things are not visible to the youth. When I see people at the liquor store with a pocket full of cash, I don’t think “Well, there is a baller” I think there is some idiot who could put that money in MMA getting 2 or 3% versus sitting in his pocket getting nothing. It is very difficult to get people to see that.

This isn’t a white or black thing, it is an ignorance thing. Motivated by materialism rather than self-actualization, the only goals worth seeking are those you can see and show off to others. I do not know the best solution to get people to see past temporary “riches”, and get them to focus on creating wealth. It is as if no one has ever heard of Mc Hammer, Kareem Abdul Jabbar and many other successful entertainers and athletes who go boom to bust, not because they incorrectly predicted fluctuations in natural gas prices, but because they were focused only on the visible. It must be terrible to live a life style where you whole day is focused on showing off to others.

This is the smartest man in the thread, no offense to the OP, it is a winderful write up, and im half black, and didnt know some of the things that you posted.

 

[bigluis 10+ year member]

that was some good stuff

 

[Savstyle 10+ year member]

Great read man. Very well done 2 thumbs up.

but......

The sagging thing, that it how it orginated, but now its changed in prisons it can mean a couple of things

1. That your somones boyfrined(gross ya i know)

2. That your gay and willing

They both seem alike but there other factors as well.

The durag thing, i cant speak for all popel who wear rags, but when i wear one i do wear when i sleep but it fall off so i tend to wear it throught out the day. Take it off when i go out at night. This i know alot of poeple do since alot of poeple in my family do this, wear it all day to get waves or to keep braids fresh for when they go out at night.

Black history month, i think its very important like you said. I completly agree, espically since the only black people you hear about are Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X. Useally Malcolm is portrayed in a bad light(at least in all teh schools i went to which was 6) Alot of black who did great things would never be known about if it wasnt for this month, or you took an african american study coarse at college. I agree with what u said on end whole heartedly, but its hard to be expected if you dont fit the stereotypes. If you arent athletic, good dancer, yada yada yada, you could be labeled as white washed. Since your not acting as everyone else thats portrayed in the media. Makes it hard to not fall into them, since we no longer have roots. The farthest i was able to trace back was to when my family was were slaves. IMO black folks culture is whatever were doing thats making them succesful, since out oringal culture is no longer known. I could go on on about this but i wont.

oh and flipx99 u done good, agreed with alot of what u said. Me being half black with some indian and white in me.

But Adio did his thing in this one.

Hit me up on aim we could conversate on a couple things.

Oh and sorry for horrible long post, that was filled with gramatical and spelling errors

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

This is the smartest man in the thread, no offense to the OP, it is a winderful write up, and im half black, and didnt know some of the things that you posted.

What?!??? You never disclosed this to me.

J/K, by the way, which half?

 

[Dozy_production 10+ year member]

naive supporter of failed planning and strategy; defender of incompetence.

alas, I'm libertarian.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

alas, I'm libertarian.

u and tucker carlson.. but we know what that really means.. u wolf in sheep's clothing //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[bimma85 5,000+ posts]

thanks toasted, that sounds like a great idea, but i mainly wrote this for ppl on here who often have questions about why some black people do the things we do, but were afraid to ask. this is also to inform ppl on here who do some of these things also or have seen black people do it and have no idea where it comes from/ the origins.

Because they are scandalous //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif.

Why "we" do the things we do? So you "be keepin dat shit gangsta 2 yo"? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

its nothing new.. look at blacksploitation in the 70s, the glorification of pimps/macks/drugs and an overall degenerate lifestyle... 'thug life' is just the continuation of that culture...
Its sad that society associates such base themes with black culture overall; that positive aspects of black culture are so easily eclipsed by negative ones in the eyes of the majority.

u just stated in a nutshell why there's need for a black history month.

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

i would have to disagree with the pants sagging section.
Pants sagging originally originated from poverty where parents had to buy pants 2X bigger so they would last longer, because the parents were to poor to buy new ones for growing boys.

Listen to Killer mikes song called " thats life", very positive song where he speaks on views of things, and thats why i like killer mike cause he doesnt bite his toungue like most of these rappers and he speaks on real life situations on which he went through

i have to disagree. if u look at older pics of black people from the 1930's up to the 1970's, u'll see no sagging at all with clothing. an excellent place to start is with charles 'teenie' harris. he worked for the pittsburgh courier back in its heyday and took some terrific photos of everyday life in black communities. and throughout the 50's - 70's, the style of pants were dungarees or some type of chinos. thse pants have/had a regular of slim fit to them. i never seen any bruh from the 60's or seventies wear a sag with bellbottoms. even in the 1980's tight or regular fitting jeans were in among black males. go to yahoo and put charles teenie harris in the image search.

go to you tube and put in public enemy- fight the power

NWA- express yourself and straight outta compton

wildstyle- various clips

guarantee you won't see a sag

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

Dozy and Faulkton are both communist fegs //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

The question is why?
Why do people glorify such poor choices? Why does BET glorify such choices. If mainstream black media does not help reverse these negative stereotypes (and I stereotype. If I see a guy with a pocket full of cash I assume both he is a drug dealer and that he is stupid) How come even though "white media" focuses on the negative aspects of our culture, white are still regarded as successful?

we all have those stereotypes, even me. if i see a young black dude drivin a nice car in a poor neighborhood, i assume he's hustlin. if i see a young white dude drivin a nice car in a poor neighborhood, i assume he's lost and thats his dads car. i even assume helives in the suburbs in a 2 parent home!!! it comes from media images and ppl who really do stupid destructive things and brag about it constantly. over and over, these things become ingrained in our subconscious and conscious.

and BET doesn't give a motherfuk about black people, even when it was owned by bob johnson. SEE AVATAR. comedy and videos, comedy and videos comedy and videos comedy and videos comedy and videos comedy and videos. BU ALOTTA PPL ON HERE WANNA KNOW WHY THERE'S NOT A wet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

I know someone is going to jump down my throat for this but have at it Marting luther King was indeed a great man, Jesse Jackson is a imbicile, the NAACP is just as racist and the KKK,and just as corupt as our government.

y?

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

(an hour later)

read the whole thread. I like it and agree with much of what has been said

thanks

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

Because they are scandalous //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif. Why "we" do the things we do? So you "be keepin dat shit gangsta 2 yo"? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

no, but i can't write about black ppl without includin myself