Not buying it....sorry. If you were trying to learn, you would PM me and I could give you the information. You didn't ask me any questions in the for sale thread, you stated your opinion. This is calling someone out and it is not cool. I have been in car audio for 18 years and all of it has been in sound quality, including competitions and finals trophies. I have a lot of knowledge on the sq side of car audio, where these would be more beneficial. Next time, a PM would be sufficient.